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Berner" , Charlie Li , Jochen Neumeister , ports-committers , dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: d128a409234d - main - editors/xed: update to 3.2.4 Message-ID: <20220705142124.mq5nvdqrzghqruxd@aniel.nours.eu> References: <202207050044.2650iTZn005846@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <9d70934e-2267-998a-e445-0141447bf6c4@freebsd.org> <27f250c0-21ee-1b7b-8d37-708c55c3508f@freebsd.org> List-Id: Commit messages for all branches of the ports repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-ports-all List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1657030886; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=LzAQjY8CUp2biag/WqTDFq8aj/SLdPFiaJhQDKQRFaw=; b=V6mCYPoPcfbr9oGTz+wbEuKTUIgheTJQG1k+ddlE61uG1dEMzVmUoIy2BSOYewYiUnVUqG ozELG5Lrr45aH8uUdZ52SGHqnUgwBGMFbyOTm0ikCg86+GOtSYmBbUJnB8aOmqbBu+99aL BZCYWNwTVAKi5xPVZZMvQYucuAVWAOFK6miu4WXmMy3TzO505dowrGAceug04LuWkSv98p L7PJvVuW//iuMIf6EEvix76aYYt3RdFAXdYsoAY05jg7nDAsSFXRyfYmUCQ1kgIzBwjNFq u148nIM7xfCrdjM/RyFlDABTZr91b6kyCcIT6kmLSPG1BkX6lSt6DMxF4XVQVw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1657030886; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=ORaX/4IqVLYsV1JX84GqtGlRxGLQKdbJaeIdzuZeoJWUiyq+qSHBRKUsXfJj62RBfJ2ozK cbaRycYuMfQxmfY5UKAowgH4fbrA0I1TKXySzRDORLvEOB3GQ6LEbm0eF3QJgNrLNvGEU5 yzup4yeJfxuRWJ3Uzow+crFqgSE4nPyfZU9Yr5gm3A9Zhs+40rlGVv+Agk26H9e7BrqBms QF329TxsMA2509WlUsAF0MgT0aEK/n6fheuPvqdWP15MbSg1EKn9tE1dV/I+uBEtkgxfRm hmsypVN3lNLzy64ExiAo7gW6FRXfTBoPjOtvAm87oEsGjn505qPf/okedt+kJw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Tue, Jul 05, 2022 at 02:08:32PM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Tue, Jul 05, 2022 at 03:26:40PM +0200, Tobias C. Berner wrote: > > To cut in on this discussion: as my message to ports@ hinted, portmgr > > is intending to get rid of those lines completely in the next months. > > We have a version control system, and attribution to the original > > creators is, and will always be there. > > Well, no, I'd like to see those "Created by:" lines in the Makefiles. > They give you the immediate history feeling, they create nice visual > separation of the PORTNAME from the top of the file, and last but not > least, this is part of what motivates people to create new ports, and > they want their name to be seen upfront, not digged out from the VCS. > > > For the reasoning: > > A person just glancing at makefiles will do wrong attribution, when > > the 'Created by' line is there, as they don't necessarily have the > > history. > > "Created by" is not "maintainer", it's the Porject's courtesy to those > who port new software. Depriving people from seeing it sends a rather > demotivating signal to new contributors. > > ./danfe The Created by is unfair and it has been explained many many times, the courtesis for the people who port new software or btw any contributors is https://docs.freebsd.org/en/articles/contributors/#contrib-additional Best regards, Bapt