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Date:      Thu, 18 Jan 2001 04:24:37 -0500
From:      "Donald J . Maddox" <dmaddox@sc.rr.com>
To:        Dima Dorfman <dima@unixfreak.org>
Cc:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.ORG>, Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, dan@langille.org, "Donald J . Maddox" <dmaddox@sc.rr.com>
Subject:   Re: too much confusion over kernel building
Message-ID:  <20010118042437.A41992@cae88-102-101.sc.rr.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010118091839.7C8D13E02@bazooka.unixfreak.org>; from dima@unixfreak.org on Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 01:18:34AM -0800
References:  <jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20010118091839.7C8D13E02@bazooka.unixfreak.org>

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On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 01:18:34AM -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote:
> 
> Although I agree with this entirely (and personally prefer to stay
> away from buildkernel, particularly because MODULES_WITH_WORLD doesn't
> always work), I don't think it's a good idea to promote using two
> different ways for different purposes to newbies.  "Use the old method
> if you're not upgrading but use the new method if you're upgrading but
> make sure to do a buildworld if you choose the latter path but you
> don't need to rebuild the world if you're already running the new,
> upgraded, kernel and you're just making modifications to the config
> file," (excuse the run-on) sounds a lot more confusing than "use
> buildkernel."
> 
> If there's no technical reason buildkernel can't be made to work Most
> Of The Time(tm) (which Neil's patches suggest there isn't), I see no
> reason just to stick with buildkernel for building a kernel.  Of
> course, the old way should still be available for use by those who
> need/want it.

I agree.  Frankly, there is no reason I can think of where the use of
buildkernel/installkernel would be in any meaningful way superior to
the old method *except* in the case of a toolchain upgrade that requires
new tools to build the new source.


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