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Berner" Cc: Charlie Li , Jochen Neumeister , ports-committers , dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: d128a409234d - main - editors/xed: update to 3.2.4 Message-ID: References: <202207050044.2650iTZn005846@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <9d70934e-2267-998a-e445-0141447bf6c4@freebsd.org> <27f250c0-21ee-1b7b-8d37-708c55c3508f@freebsd.org> List-Id: Commit messages for all branches of the ports repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-ports-all List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1657042398; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=v2bdwvhFScb0/e8+uuUhaz8gh8MNgGXP+flzBdEL/rU=; b=ddcFy+I7f5cfMorkRnWBvstfPMGmGxZYrV4rSvqrXSk5fH8B+xZfXAq0zUQKU0qxhZTdq/ f9jGCa27zIzwi8cvyXy5o8a1BROf3V2rKdS+ks8kZRCLQe1wcMMXKutB+zysTlrEYQr9et TPcpukmnFl1QDwK6RfgtGE11p830Ct983iiqueA7NZ6vNaYGqcVxbR5765MrF+BQ1muLyT JLiAZbr+EU6/Ktx9UsEGFcEExR4R8flVItqc40sVYAQzUFF5u4iuMqTwAezburBgGDHHLR dD+2gj65n9wJj6AklBsKOLhmxh0GMH05A0s08tTJ92YmvVAm0u7E6O4KxwdpsA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1657042398; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=RRZXEssbbPZbuQjjtRGdqwVMASXclYCSKJLS+m3kSY9mcVzrqeM61iWN9djCQe+TKJONnI ICLUXQ+myklhSC3sFJqJP681enKj3iXhk+lQsf/2+BJHEx2FW5PWfCsxc3QVoFWqLIGt6J nMI6Ot5joHrGFBODO2BzxBnuklAp4WiOLsu+XNnCS3BzdE0139kz2a4zR5Ktay/ms64q4R RsHuPsIacqpr7KLV+AJcX7aIEw3QUVZRNRy/U8N4BWeJkKAxKZh9Y8LgnMKZfl8iXNxTb+ oDYyb12NRLgxQrhnz4LMCo6RybGx+uGB0RDcImj+oU4/oNx+pgRWmf1Ovu9sow== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Tue, Jul 05, 2022 at 03:26:40PM +0200, Tobias C. Berner wrote: > ... > For the reasoning: > A person just glancing at makefiles will do wrong attribution, when > the 'Created by' line is there, as they don't necessarily have the > history. > All the work that people like Charlie do is marked down by those. I've been thinking about this paragraph and it does not make much sense to me, esp. the last sentence. Let's spell out the situation, again, in chronological order: 0. vishwin@ works on Cinnamon ports since 2018 in a serapate repo; it's cooking but somewhat slowly, gnome@ is understaffed, etc. 1. someone adds a port, good solid work, not those "dump something quick and let others fix the mess" type of thing, in 2020, unaware of the freebsd-ports-gnome repo; 2. life goes on, port gets updated (by that someone), feedback gets incorporated, the port goes under gnome@ wing after some time to ease the maintenance; 3. mid-2022, vishwin@ replaces the port because, well, "the new port lineage comes from the freebsd-ports-gnome repo since 2018, not what not what was committed since 2020", essentially throwing away prior work as having no value, but without providing any technical backup to this claim, while the diff suggests that development was pretty much colinear (as often happens with simple programs). So you guys think this is okay, and on that merit want to strip us off the creator tag? And exactly how "the work that people like Charlie do" justifies replacing literally the same code accidently done (but done well) by someone else? What are we, as a Project, doing to protect the work of our contributors? ./danfe