Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:23:54 +0200 From: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> To: Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com> Cc: Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Can we please just remove the old Makefile headers? Message-ID: <201208271424.q7RENtx2024510@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: Your message "Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:16:54 EDT." <CAF6rxgkL4BS9q-BApVz8vj5=DG84xEdF=yQGESTv=s2JL_PPpg@mail.gmail.com>
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Eitan Adler wrote: > On 27 August 2012 08:40, Julian H. Stacey <jhs@berklix.com> wrote: > > On various other older ports, when I couldnt get response in time > > from MAINTAINER (I don't mean re hylafax), perhaps maintainer on > > holiday, & I couldn't wait for send-pr tiem out, & didnt want to > > invoke send-pr, I fell back succesfully, to contacting the Whom: > > creator, who while no longer regularly motivated to do maintenance, > > could respond without delay & give hints (fallback maintainer). > > Which is exactly the reason we should get rid of the whom lines. The > submitter is *not* a fallback maintainer, No, - eg, If MAINTAINER of hylafax had resigned I would have resumed maintenance. - Creators of others ports have functioned as fallback if asked. I guess its not an uncommon phenomena, a creator is happy someone else maintains code, but doesnt want to see a port unsupported if maintainer response might slip toward timeout & replacement. > and some users mistakenly > assume that the whom line is the maintainer. If global edit is done, we could be more explicit than "Whom:" & change to eg "Creator (but see MAINTAINER below):" > We should be encouraging > users to mail ports@freebsd.org and possibly cc the maintainer if > required. Ports is high volume; one can get lost in traffic, sometimes private mail is better, context dependent. > > Some ports are easy to create, eg my lang/pbasic, but some are > > hard, (eg I'd guess editors/openoffice-3 may have been, One might ask > > # Whom: Martin Blapp > > The whom address might be bouncing, the person might be not be using > FreeBSD anymore, or any of the like. Alow deletion & update by send-pr > > Let ports creators retain their one line of credit. Removing it > > would save little & be ungrateful, like removing names out of .c > > & .h. (Some (inc. me) may like noticing in passing who created > > the ports one's working on)). The credit may encourage some ports > > creators to struggle on, creating sometimes obdurate complex ports > > one might otherwise be tempted to give up on after a not-yet-port > > is just hand built & hand tested localy, > > Interesting argument. But this implies that we should allow the whom > line to be changed by "creator request" I wasnt aware they were not changeable ?. I'd assumed it was free text comment, not auto generated ? Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with "> ". Send plain text. Not: HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable.
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