Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:38:13 -0400 From: "George Ramos" <george@durham.net> To: <freebsd-isp@freebsd.org> Subject: Hard drives keep dying.....loooking for some advice Message-ID: <003c01c23583$a12d8ca0$20fea8c0@ddd>
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C23562.1A251460 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_003E_01C23562.1A3D7E60" ------=_NextPart_001_003E_01C23562.1A3D7E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is our main server and it is handling Web, DNS, mail, mail junk filter, virus scanning, etc On top of that, the environment where this server is located is rather warm...(not necessarily hot but warm). We can make the environment cooler (at a cost) but at this point we are not sure if the problem is mainly caused by heat or by overload (and of course possibly a combination of both, but we are not sure that heat is the issue because the server run fine until we added the new services.....) The situation seems to be "borderline", the last crash happend a few hours after we "re-enabled" the virus scanning routine (which we had disabled because of the previous crash.......) As a matter of fact, the server had been running very nicely for months untill we put in place the two new mail services (junk filter and virus scan) at which point hard drives started to die...... I mean, do drives get "substantially" hotter as the work load increases? Can anyone make any recommendations on drives? Any particular brand/model (IDE) that seems to tolerate heat better than others? Do 5400 RPM drives run cooler than 7200 or vice versa? Do 20 Gb H/D's run any cooler that 40 Gb's? We can use either) What else can we do to lessen the work load on these drives? Create a ramdrive? (The motherboard that we have will support 3 Gb's of DDR ram) Any ideas, thoughts, input would be greatly appreciated..... George Ramos Durham Net and Motor City Computers Please note that if you haven't E-mailed me in the past (and you think that there is a good reason for me to want to receive your E-mails, you must first send me an E-mail with the word wordone on the subject line, otherwise your E-mails will be rejected. I apologize for any inconvenience but given the amount of unsolicited E-mail that I used to receive I have had no choice but to take this measure. 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We can make the environment cooler (at a = cost) but at=20 this point we are not sure if the problem is mainly caused by heat or by = overload (and of course possibly a combination of both, but we are not = sure that=20 heat is the issue because the server run fine until we added the new=20 services.....)</SPAN></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002><SPAN = class=3D030314014-27072002>The situation=20 seems to be "borderline", the last crash happend a few hours after we=20 "re-enabled" the virus scanning routine (which we had disabled because = of the=20 previous crash.......) As a matter of fact, the server had been running = very=20 nicely for months untill we put in place the two new mail services (junk = filter=20 and virus scan) at which point hard drives started to=20 die......</SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002>I = mean, do=20 drives get "substantially" hotter as the work load=20 increases?</SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002><SPAN = class=3D030314014-27072002>Can anyone=20 make any recommendations on drives?</SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002><SPAN = class=3D030314014-27072002>Any=20 particular brand/model (IDE) that seems to tolerate heat better than=20 others?</SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002><SPAN = class=3D030314014-27072002>Do 5400 RPM=20 drives run cooler than 7200 or vice versa?</SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002><SPAN = class=3D030314014-27072002>Do 20 Gb=20 H/D's run any cooler that 40 Gb's? We can use = either)</SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002><SPAN = class=3D030314014-27072002>What else can=20 we do to lessen the work load on these drives?</SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002><SPAN = class=3D030314014-27072002>Create a=20 ramdrive? (The motherboard that we have will support 3 Gb's of DDR=20 ram)</SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002><SPAN = class=3D030314014-27072002>Any ideas,=20 thoughts, input would be greatly appreciated.....</SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002><SPAN=20 class=3D030314014-27072002></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002></SPAN>George Ramos<BR>Durham Net = and Motor=20 City Computers<BR>Please note that if you haven't E-mailed me in the = past (and=20 you think that there is a good reason for me to want to receive your = E-mails,=20 you must first send me an E-mail with the word wordone on the subject = line,=20 otherwise your E-mails will be rejected. I apologize for any = inconvenience but=20 given the amount of unsolicited E-mail that I used to receive I have had = no=20 choice but to take this measure.<BR>Best regards. </DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_001_003E_01C23562.1A3D7E60-- ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C23562.1A251460 Content-Type: image/gif; name="TechTool.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: <030314014@27072002-0193> R0lGODlhQQByAPcAAAAAADMzM2ZmZpmZmcDAwAAAAAAAAAAAAPB0AQBMAE0AAABNABoAAAAMF1AA fOxvADcBAACg9m8AcIj7vzCL+7//////yOxvAKxK978AAAAAMxdQACBK978BAAAADBdQALvxQwDY H1AAAAAAAGYAAAAMF1AArAwAACgYUAABAAAA2B9QAEwAAACsDAAAAABAANgfUAAAAAAAAAAAAAEA AAAsGVAABAEAAAAAAAAAAAAAKBhQADztbwBsAAgAGgAjAAAAAAAMF1AAYHNAANQCSABPcGVuAAAA AAAMzxfE7W8ACO9vAMgn97/JF/a/AHBvAFxcQ2hyaXNuZVxjJFxvbGs5XHN0YXRpb24AdGVjaHRv b2wuZ2lmAADE7W8AJ0v2vwQLXQAAAAAA5xcvAR+AFwE/AT8BKABvAQYAFwAfgBcBzj/PF/8WAAAA AHhOIwDnAtaNPjfnFwEA9hQgAAIAcApvAAAAAAAAAF4BBI4BRPw5AgCE/QIA/xZgAAAAWgB+IAEA SoABADABAAAJAH4gan9OIl8DCQAAAH4gOvUAAJp/AAAAAPQKAwCE/QIAABaEjgAADABvADJ+UFIA BAADAAQBCAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAABbAQPAAAQwAH4gthcPAzcYDwMAAAAAUQBYAIg5AgAcD6x+ XFxDaHJpc25lXGMkXG9sazlcc3RhdGlvblx0ZWNodG9vbC5naWYAAAAAJkoDAAAEMABiAAAAXQAA AFwwAQDW/zSAfwNbAV5/JQJ/AwkAAAB+IEr7AADO+wAANxgPA7YXDwNKALDxbwCY8W8ABoIAAOLx YQAAAGIATABdAEYAA8ACBQAATAIAAAgXUAAcAQAAx4L3vwAATQAkGFAATAIAAAAAAAAIF1AAAABN AEEAAAAMAE0AAQUAAAAAAABAAAAAgoT3v0EAAACZhPe/AABNAEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEEAAACsDAAA AAAAAPCT978AAE0ALpT3v/SIXoFmAAAAZgAAAKwMAAAFhkMArAwAACH5BAEAAAQALAAAAABBAHIA QAj/AAkIHCBAoMGDBwEoLIgw4UCFAAY0nDhRAEOEBAlChGhwI0UCAzx+HHmwoESSFxMqlBhA4EYB AwJsBABzpEwABlOCJDkx5EyFFHHaVBjg5McBRnPyjEmUpNCGP1fybKjz4kKSNyEWzSrUJEeMOnsS CDsV4cakZr8S+AmT7Fi3SyGefFpR7UikVIuWXSsV6lG7R2siTOm26WC6dA/6bDkyMdWPcicCNdtz cs6kidEaRHt2M2MBlh2mNapXIGjHAxuihQuyr9+cERvefKxY9dipNxlLpugTdcWdGDVPvMka8dW9 mzWHjBtaskjkZpUrDfoy5UzoYkFKD9oxKgDdLvc+/w+uOoCAAObRn+e6Ub3786DTp4fPXqv89ee3 O2/eGGF9tb4JZ5Rw0F2X02mAlZSaar6JN95+BIoGFnYPNshXbEtlx5pL/BnVYGROHfUbh6g151uC 09VGlUQn9fYdcDsthlSLGCJ13koDtvYScILdZRB4m/EXnmJCEsdbhLc5JeSQIAF54UgM4fUaTyh2 JFuVkAm3IYkh9oYkSlp+mZWSS+6VkW1rDZTbQs8lldWWPDG0oZMkngQTe2kip9ZFUqroH5GujRcR ewJKReeXdXkXloUqWdjnZmTOFJNmjk2qo6QiDvbXTzOWJuFAk3pHkn7UMWrlYd4hqeVwOhba3nIP qf/V258YZWdad6ZSNlNRNc3K6oKaJoldSVr5+RJRRM0FY0meDnsho8XeRVaP2HmZJ29YKqYcooki BqVho1ZW4HGfQlUmZbbB+SR3FOU2FYuqtdgYf55+eO6twELqZ3dOhmQdthj2lNSqFJ1GlmtMjvbr srxRx6duPk2pEkOeulhrvEYhKBW8SCUrZUgtInVTnydxNXBYlGqrsMQcdnskmsHux253MgvU75eM jjzzWmHNtvCjC5rq6275cokSvoNxCyLRGGUL1rbvZpvYg+8KONXSRCPorHZMzxvwbtE6+/Wpdzm9 49Y8x3sVyGmdmxW3UBKUqYHPQob11kDvC6PG+o7/RfWwUWYXIURtGapVrir7aXWKjRZk1Vk4Ubtp lEmRhZaTS/NN4t1t20zb1Y0iS7iELdJ5GgF0Cqv3QS25SDfZo4Jr6+pt79r1keZtuHipMxV2VH2S KxjvgnZGZRKCvNKk0UIs/gcvcDZinK/rhi2vPGgWIViTxqOrmDfDitXXLLpUiZopeR/d+T35rJvv I/rDIdxf7ZimfpRwLcl+GbB0aUwo7OGiVbaohyuaBIleMEuOik7DLblFhG5eEdKjoMaw9UFGezoq XJlUJRF1RYpPBQQh7UCFtgOW6TkGkldwPAiwF9mtOWxjoHIQl76/NQpRY2sN2t4GrXslTIFiM4yj /5yGtGd554hITKISk7g/CpHrWhCqGoOgY61yde5qM0TO0KzYqLKgJnpRW1KDtpi+VTXwiexrG6Ke FyzdofFa9sqVChW3KUp56IWjmmPiQIIyIYUmQPJL2uqABh6faEYmaYSNhey3R9b5LYfYSySHfDe7 ohErh3xhGc0+JzkKNk0ozYqYJEXZpMNIEVXlYcqinIMeznRmdfhBD3vuI8sl/kQ+8tkVLlH2ScAQ xGeJjI+l0oIypemkXph0DMJiwiECWU4xfKLUiczlsPPRzjenu51M+mjA1HGLkW/8oQsB5abPKY41 htyZH3P4qGeqrlSQCRKDMAksqynthAB85JcC1zSw2OGzYIF8mWrgxLl81qksbZni1c5VooBm6XZ4 jCeg6HnBSrZwfqYhYk8eZ8uOevSjAAgIADs= ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C23562.1A251460-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message
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