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Date:      Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:38:13 -0400
From:      "George Ramos" <george@durham.net>
To:        <freebsd-isp@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Hard drives keep dying.....loooking for some advice
Message-ID:  <003c01c23583$a12d8ca0$20fea8c0@ddd>

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This is our main server and it is handling Web, DNS, mail, mail junk filter,
virus scanning, etc
On top of that, the environment where this server is located is rather
warm...(not necessarily hot but warm). We can make the environment cooler
(at a cost) but at this point we are not sure if the problem is mainly
caused by heat or by overload (and of course possibly a combination of both,
but we are not sure that heat is the issue because the server run fine until
we added the new services.....)
The situation seems to be "borderline", the last crash happend a few hours
after we "re-enabled" the virus scanning routine (which we had disabled
because of the previous crash.......) As a matter of fact, the server had
been running very nicely for months untill we put in place the two new mail
services (junk filter and virus scan) at which point hard drives started to
die......
I mean, do drives get "substantially" hotter as the work load increases?
Can anyone make any recommendations on drives?
Any particular brand/model (IDE) that seems to tolerate heat better than
others?
Do 5400 RPM drives run cooler than 7200 or vice versa?
Do 20 Gb H/D's run any cooler that 40 Gb's? We can use either)
What else can we do to lessen the work load on these drives?
Create a ramdrive? (The motherboard that we have will support 3 Gb's of DDR
ram)
Any ideas, thoughts, input would be greatly appreciated.....


George Ramos
Durham Net and Motor City Computers
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002>This is our main server&nbsp;and =
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class=3D030314014-27072002>On top of=20
that, the environment where this server is located is rather warm...(not =

necessarily hot but warm). We can make the environment cooler (at a =
cost) but at=20
this point we are not sure if the problem is mainly caused by heat or by =

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seems to be "borderline", the last crash happend a few hours after we=20
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previous crash.......) As a matter of fact, the server had been running =
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die......</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002>I =
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increases?</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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make any recommendations on drives?</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002><SPAN =
class=3D030314014-27072002>Any=20
particular brand/model (IDE) that seems to tolerate heat better than=20
others?</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002><SPAN =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002><SPAN =
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ramdrive? (The motherboard that we have will support 3 Gb's of DDR=20
ram)</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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thoughts, input would be greatly appreciated.....</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D030314014-27072002></SPAN>George Ramos<BR>Durham Net =
and Motor=20
City Computers<BR>Please note that if you haven't E-mailed me in the =
past (and=20
you think that there is a good reason for me to want to receive your =
E-mails,=20
you must first send me an E-mail with the word wordone on the subject =
line,=20
otherwise your E-mails will be rejected. I apologize for any =
inconvenience but=20
given the amount of unsolicited E-mail that I used to receive I have had =
no=20
choice but to take this measure.<BR>Best regards. </DIV></BODY></HTML>

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