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[2001:470:1f1c:a0::2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n5sm10190127wrp.80.2021.07.18.05.38.27 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 18 Jul 2021 05:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: FreeBSD To: ezekiel motta References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Graham Perrin Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 13:38:26 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GSPfF4zGQz3w1c X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=Tzbx81no; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grahamperrin@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::32d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grahamperrin@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.05 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32d:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.95)[-0.950]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32d:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32d:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 12:38:30 -0000 Welcome :-) On 17/07/2021 13:18, ezekiel motta wrote: > Hello FreeBSD Foundation Contact details for the Foundation: > … NomadBSD/GhostBSD/, but I would prefer to install FreeBSD > from the people that have developed FreeBSD. I do not like forks, > I think they are a bit parasitical. … Things such as GhostBSD are not parasitical, please see (for example): – I'll request addition of NomadBSD. > If you offered a simple installer (download image, burnt it on > usb flash drive and install it, done, finito) I believe many > many more people would use FreeBSD. … True. Realistically: we should not expect developers of FreeBSD, which does not include a desktop environment, to provide and maintain an image with a desktop environment. It's simply out of scope. Desktop environments, window managers and so on are ported. For each port, there's a maintainer. FreshPorts is our friend: Community works in progress include this, which should work if a disk (written from Samuel Venable's image) is used to boot a real machine: should explain why FreeBSD does not distribute images with desktop environments, although I reckon that the book of answers to frequently asked questions is already too long. Elsewhere there are many discussions of the rationale. Two of the more recent discussions: Kind regards Graham (former user of Mac OS X)