From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Apr 18 6:39:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14FAB37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 06:39:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f3IDdXq44163 ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:39:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id PAA44316 ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:39:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:39:31 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: James Howard Cc: Brett Glass , Kris Kirby , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: banner(6) Message-ID: <20010418153931.R27000@lpt.ens.fr> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010417125214.0456f470@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from howardjp@well.com on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:31:56AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org James Howard said on Apr 18, 2001 at 09:31:56: > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Brett Glass wrote: > > > That's called ligature. It's different from kerning in that it actually > > combines two characters into one. (My late father was a typesetting > > expert in the days before computer typesetting was common, and constantly > > had to proofread to catch situations in which ligatures were not > > substituted for the appropriate character pair.) > > What other character pairs are there? I flipped through a couple books > and only found "fi". fl, ff, ffi, ffl. But Adobe fonts seem to include only fi and fl. I can live without the other ligatures, but "fi" without a ligature looks really ugly to me in many fonts (like times roman) -- the clash between the top of the "f" and the dot of the "i" is jarring. And "ffi" with only the last "fi" ligatured looks ugly too. I think it would be really neat if some future office suite used a properly ligatured "ffi" in its logo.... Some much older books also have ligatures for "ct", and at one time (2 centuries ago) I think there were even more. -Rahul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message