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Date:      Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:35:31 +0000
From:      David Chisnall <theraven@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        toolchain@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Removing default build of gcc
Message-ID:  <8A0C6AD5-F247-4488-B44A-85AC2D539D4D@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20130126152225.GC2522@kib.kiev.ua>
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On 26 Jan 2013, at 15:22, Konstantin Belousov wrote:

> Your initial assesment of the problem as a misbehaviour of the =
combination
> of filtering and versioning made no sense to me, I asked you to =
provide
> the isolated test case, which you did not.

The test case in the PR was such a test case.  libstdc++ and libsupc++ =
export a few symbols (including the ones that I mentioned in the email =
that you are replying to) with different versions.  The end result is =
that you get some cases where some code (typically in libsupc++)=20

I am not claiming that this is an rtld bug, so I don't know why you keep =
going on about it as if I am.  I do not know why you want me to provide =
you with an isolated test case for a bug that is assigned to me and that =
I am in the process of fixing.

> Our implementation of filters indeed only allows for the filtered
> symbol to have the same version as the filtee symbol. I re-read the
> SUN documentation about filters (who had designed them), and looked at
> what Linux does there. It seems to me that Sun document spirit forces
> us to behave in a way which our rtld currently does. Linux behaviour =
is
> useless there, IMHO, since their rtld just inserts filtee before =
filter
> in the global lookup order (I may be wrong there).

This is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to the bug in question, which is that our =
libcxxrt and libsupc++ version scripts have some incorrect symbol =
versions.

> I do suggest (again) that the way to fix the issue is to provide the
> isolated test-case and decide if the behaviour of rtld is right.

It is correct.  I am not claiming it is incorrect.  I don't know why you =
keep repeating that I am. =20

> If we
> conclude that the problem is not in rtld but in the versioning =
mismatch
> between libraries (libstdc++ and libsupc++), I again suggest to =
provide
> the patch for review first. The ABI seems to become too unwieldly, and
> making ad-hoc changes there could paint us into the corner.

I have a patch, which fixes it in some cases and has been tested, but =
misses some others.  I am preparing a patch that fixes the versioning =
consistently across libsupc++ and libcxxrt to match libstdc++.  I want =
to do this as a single patch, rather than an ad hoc series of changes.  =
My aim is, as it has always been, to preserve the existing ABI.=20

David=

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