From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 16:23:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E9116A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:23:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9ED443D4C for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:23:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:25:32 -0500 Message-ID: <41013B91.2090208@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:23:45 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040712 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andrew@mhzdesign.com References: <410130DF.3050700@inhouseproductions.on.ca> In-Reply-To: <410130DF.3050700@inhouseproductions.on.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2004 16:25:32.0984 (UTC) FILETIME=[AD384B80:01C470D1] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible use of Mac GUI? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:23:49 -0000 Andrew Croft wrote: > Hi, > > Is there any way to control the mailserver running freeBSD using a Mac > GUI application? > > I am not a UNIX whiz and hate having to do any manual text entry right > on the server. > > There has got to be a better way. Not sure what you're describing, or looking for. Very few people, I imagine, do "manual text entry right on the server" these days, unless they have no call to do anything else. (ie, they run a BIG mail server, and have no call for anything but a text console; in which case they should be making big $$$$$ for hazardous duty [what, no gaming?]). Many, however, do terminal emulation from some desktop or another to any number of servers.... So, is the issue that you physically have to go to the server console, or simply that you want some pointy-clicky thing to do the thinking for you (no offense inferred...)? Maybe this will at least help us to clarify the issue. If the problem is simply that you have to leave a comfy chair, get an SSH client. In Windows, you'd download PuTTY or PenGUINet or some similar app. I imagine that something like that is available for the Mac as well; furthermore, since OS X has a good deal of the FBSD "userland" available, you might simply try to use ssh from the CLI on whatever terminal/term emulator you prefer on your Mac; it should be there, but YMMV. You login from your station and do the work via CLI on a remote TTY. I personally don't know of any whiz-bang "GUI" app for *any* platform that controls mailservers --- there are so many possible MTAs out there anyway. Of course, some may have 'em, but they're unknown to me. You might look at webmin, which is a web-based interface to many server functions, including some mail functions. You can also do X11 forwarding to Winboxen via CygWin IIRC, maybe something like that for the Mac? But, you'd have to set up X on the server, and there goes your load margin if it handles much traffic...well, it might depend on your choice of wm, etc. but who really wants a GUI on a headless box? I suppose that the holy grail you seek may be out there, but I'm guessing that your quest may be long, tiring, and fraught with peril, much as Galahad's ... although for your sake I could hope for better things, I guess ;-) HTH, Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P.