Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:20:56 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: Dutch Collins <dutch@charm.net> To: lex manno <lexmanno@yahoo.com> Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vi? lynx? please! Message-ID: <Pine.WNT.4.21.0006301341330.-142373@muffy> In-Reply-To: <20000630110757.17110.qmail@web5404.mail.yahoo.com>
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Having already vented some steam on a post trolling Beastie I can say, "I will not flame you." That said, On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, lex manno wrote: > Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 04:07:57 -0700 (PDT) > From: lex manno <lexmanno@yahoo.com> > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: vi? lynx? please! > > hi there, > > Well, I've been using FBSD for almost a year now and I > was wondering. Isn't it about time to remove primitive > stuff like vi and lynx from the o.s.? As the user interface of a system (any & all OS) gets more complex they will be easier to use, A Good Thing (tm). However, a complex system will fail in ways that make reconstruction difficult. A simple example of one is X, another is MS-windows. I have had failures when using X plus KDE that made using ee (ed) the only way out of the mess. Never give up a tool because it is not the latest gee whizz tech. Hint; try to read html documents after netscape on X fails and raw html is not "your thing". Lynx on a terminal will save you. > > I mean, when there are editors like Joe and Emacs and > browsers like Netscape, why do we need to keep all > these antiquated monsters? > > For God's sake, let us modernize! > > bye, > lex Modernize? Think for a minute about that. I use Netscape, I use Emacs. Both have limits as I said above. A short story based on my week of modern OS tools and user interface fun. A few weeks back my 3.2-R box died. So I tried to be modern and used an existing win98 box as a terminal to ssh into a BSDI box. Oops, no x sessions allowed. Ok, I can browse with win-netscape, edit in emacs on the BSDI box, check html in BSDI-Lynx; I was happy. The universe never without a "funny bone" let Outlook and IRC be run on *my* 'smart terminal' by a someone who 'clicks-and-drag'. Well, I just got the thing fixed using; pc-pine, pc-lynx, pc-unix utilities, and very little help from the 'modern' OS company or it's tool kit, i.e., I had to use primitive tools. Never, throw out a tool. You may need it someday. The trick is to know which tools to keep. -d ;I am sailing into, Oh. No. it's The Perfect Storm!!' -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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