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Date:      Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:57:25 -0800 (PST)
From:      John Caldwell <caldwelljohn44@yahoo.com>
To:        "freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org" <freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Waiting for sound system to respond
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From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com>

Did you test it without pulseaudio? I'm a FreeBSD novice, but experienced with audio on Linux and pulseaudio is known to cause trouble like this.
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I'm sorry I'm new to FreeBSD desktop but how do I disable pulseaudio?  I tried the following:

1. tried to pkg_delete pulseaudio but it said a few packaged depends on it.  Then I went through each of these packages, did "make config" to make sure any pulseaudio option is unchecked, then make; make deinstall; make reinstall it.  These packages include:
 
gnome2
gnome-appletes
gnome-control-center
gnome-media
gnome-session
gnome-settings-daemon
deskbar-applet
etc

pulseaudio still can't be deleted after that.  I rebooted anyway but didn't notice any difference regarding the problem.  

By the way, from the very beginning up to now, the audio largely functions all the time, for example, I can watch some youtube videos (non-flash ones) with perfect sound, and I can control its volume by the volume control under the youtube video.  I just can't control volume using the hardware buttons and the controls offered by the gnome desktop utilities.  

2. I tried to replace alsa with oss, but now alsa is built into the kernel so when trying to load oss it says:

kernel: osscore: Open Sound System conflicts with FreeBSD driver
kernel: osscore: Please remove sound(4) from kernel or unload it

Someone recommended recompling kernel in order to use oss, but how do you deal with security update?  Right now I only put "freebsd-update fetch install" in cron job.  I'm not sure how to do that with custom kernel.

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:57:25 +0100, John Caldwell
<caldwelljohn44@yahoo.com> wrote:
> gnome-settings-daemon

Rebuild gnome-settings-daemon and disable pulseaudio. Theoretically it's
possible to disable pulseaudio, but this doesn't work for all versions as
expected. On Linux it's enough to build a dummy package, that fakes to
provide PA, this doesn't cause issues, as long as libpulse(audio) or what
ever it's named, is installed. However, on Linux (by upstream) only
gnome-settings-daemon has the hard dependency to PA. It might be different
for FreeBSD, I'm a newbie for BSD myself. I'm using Xfce4, but have GNOME
installed too, since there were obscure dependencies, seemingly not from
upstream, but for FreeBSD. I didn't experienced this on Linux.

I don't have PA installed.

$ pkg_info | grep pulseaudio
$ pkg_info | grep gnome-settings-daemon
gnome-settings-daemon-2.32.1_4 GNOME 2 settings daemon

I suspect you need to rebuild all the listed dependencies. I only can
speak for Linux (and upstream), theoretically and on Linux in reality you
only need to rebuild gnome-settings-daemon, or to fake that the dependency
is fulfilled.

Regards,
Ralf



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