From owner-freebsd-i386@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 2 13:10:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-i386@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA1B16A417 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2007 13:10:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0505813C46B for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2007 13:10:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l72DACDY025783 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2007 13:10:12 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l72DACXZ025782; Thu, 2 Aug 2007 13:10:12 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 13:10:12 GMT Message-Id: <200708021310.l72DACXZ025782@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-i386@FreeBSD.org From: "Chauncey Menefee" Cc: Subject: RE: i386/115054: NTP errors out on startup but restart of NTP fixes problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-i386@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chauncey Menefee List-Id: I386-specific issues for FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 13:10:13 -0000 The following reply was made to PR i386/115054; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Chauncey Menefee" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= , "Bruce Evans" Cc: , Subject: RE: i386/115054: NTP errors out on startup but restart of NTP fixes problem Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 06:44:18 -0600 The link speed is hardcoded to 100 Mbps full duplex at the switch.=20 We'll try Bruce idea on Monday. Chauncey N. Menefee NOC Technician PRISM Technologies Cell phone: 209.712.8736 24 Hour NOC Support: 1-505-314-7865 -----Original Message----- From: Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav [mailto:des@des.no] Sent: Wed 8/1/2007 6:00 AM To: Bruce Evans Cc: Chauncey Menefee; freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; = freebsd-i386@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i386/115054: NTP errors out on startup but restart of NTP = fixes problem =20 Bruce Evans writes: > Several versions of FreeBSD have annoying behaviouor for network > startup, involving the network not actually being up when ifconfig > returns and subsequent different mishandling of this by various > utilities. [...] > This problem seems to get worse with each release of FreeBSD and/or > with newer NICs. I never noticed fxp or even ed or rl NICs. Now it > is barely noticeable with fxp and very noticeable with sk, bge and em > NICs. I have never seen this with any of the cards I've used (xl, fxp, rl, re, sis, bge, sk, msk and probably others, in no particular order). Perhaps there is a hardware issue involved? Does the problem occur if you hardcode the link speed instead of relying on autonegotiation? DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no