From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jan 1 12: 8:22 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C075A37B401 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 12:08:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from clover.kientzle.com (user-112uh9a.biz.mindspring.com [66.47.69.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BC343E4A for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 12:08:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kientzle@acm.org) Received: from acm.org (c43 [66.47.69.43]) by clover.kientzle.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h01K8IE32217 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 12:08:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kientzle@acm.org) Message-ID: <3E134AB2.8030401@acm.org> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 12:08:18 -0800 From: Tim Kientzle Reply-To: kientzle@acm.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.6) Gecko/20011206 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: devd, crunchgen, C++, and /rescue Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm slowly tracking down the remaining minor issues with my all-static crunchgen-ed /rescue implementation. This includes pretty much everything from /bin and /sbin, as well as a few useful tools from /usr/bin and /usr/sbin. However, I've just run into an ugly problem. Specifically, devd is now written in C++ (as of a few weeks ago) and crunchgen does _not_ play well with C++ programs. For now, this means that devd will not be in /rescue. I'm not entirely happy about this. Policy question: Is C++ considered acceptable in /bin and /sbin? (I presume so, since Warner's doing it.) Technical Question: Does anyone know how to get crunchgen to play nicely with C++ programs? (I've tried a couple of simple changes to the generated makefile with no success.) Usability Question: How necessary is devd likely to be for people recovering from serious disaster? (Imagine that /usr, /bin, and /sbin are all broken. Will some people require devd to get a network adapter or hot-plug CD-ROM running, for example?) Thanks for any assistance or ideas, Tim Kientzle To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message