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On 08/15/12 11:54, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> In message<CAJ-Vmo=yzCz_jDhTVQ3kyHgxDnUTvzqZPp+sDSz+ZWe7cYmpJQ@mail.gmail.com>
> , Adrian Chadd writes:
>> Holy. Crap. 17 seconds?
>>
>> Can we please go back to having it take this long? please?
> 386BSD was even better, and I have a machine that boots it in less
> than 15 seconds from power-on...
>
A Sun 3-50 with a 15.7MHz 68020 and 4MB running diskless was about the 
same booting. And when you opened mailtool, you were reading the latest 
in less than a second. In exchange for having a graphic that can resize 
itself to be readable, supposedly, from a 4 line LED screen to a wall 
TV, you have mail user agents that will let you read mail in a couple of 
seconds, but only after 30 seconds of filling 100MB of memory with 
cached pages.

Hmm. Progress!