From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 19 04:35:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC17106566B; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 04:35:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lattera@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64378FC0A; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 04:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so4333180wwf.31 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:35:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=9GUKhYlLbyG/BJC/6dQQaxgyGXeq2iFTB1+jbQB2jNw=; b=cOTCwf4fcJSDKk5qFaOsZlvtUniIEgzy6DKCN8dPWtpIbS1kzCNX2fT0ryFSPoWPLB Oq9mvmRNiySM8yueUPt4C8qvzoNAOc82A7A2B5I9R1sy4VGz/r1+eZZu/OVRHqs0G+Lo cNAUKXhsaFUvs50A1K8DOuN6xhCbpThKoCVXk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=kQu7CsWKAkx+JDJRSF/Uy1X0eAs122Nu62iUVAl7qxDCBMznsA26IRMpFc2HVRBsxE 5V7U/jaNGKILWG2FUH49FiXp9jFm6ozxcYyZoITDysnKEolFSHXPG86/i813y7TAXLLy F0yHcbcQ1qLfEXJFSZjD6LpcFxVXuPLLWGGM4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.9.222 with SMTP id m30mr1340194wbm.211.1298088716916; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:11:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.68.204 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:11:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <61079648-D76C-4699-AC4D-F6EBE64ABFFC@vicor.com> References: <4D35CFFB.3010302@freebsd.org> <4D5E945F.60106@freebsd.org> <61079648-D76C-4699-AC4D-F6EBE64ABFFC@vicor.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:11:56 -0700 Message-ID: From: Shawn Webb To: Devin Teske Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Nathan Whitehorn , freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installer Roadmap X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 04:35:49 -0000 > There are many reasons for this, and none of them are selfish (although it > remains possible to drum-up some selfish reason, all of the reasons behind > our motivation are in-fact unselfish). Truth-be-told, I welcome the > replacement of sysinstall but am very wary that ANY replacement will be able > to exactly replicate the hardware compatibility that sysinstall currently > enjoys. I do indeed envision a great celebration as FreeBSD-9 bucks > sysinstall but also at the same time have nightmares of receiving waves of > calls from people having trouble (for example) "installing FreeBSD-9 on > their AMD K6 based system, circa long-long-ago in a universe far-far-away." > (yes, we do have data centers running that very equipment with uptime in the > 1,000's of days). > I'm sure I'm not fully aware of the situation at your data center, but would systems that have 1,000+ day uptimes be candidates for upgrade to FreeBSD 9? It seems that if a system has that kind of uptime, it's a high priority server and uptime needs to be maintained. Maybe it would be possible to have both sysinstall and bsdinstall on the same install medium? Thanks, Shawn Webb