From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 09:59:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A454D106566B; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:59:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255078FC08; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:59:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n0C9xY14014567 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:59:36 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <496B1471.1080900@unsane.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:59:13 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Ross References: <61484.71762.qm@web32708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090111044448.GC5661@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <342292.89033.qm@web32703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <496A98B3.1010301@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Peter Jeremy , Tim Kientzle , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "Pedro F. Giffuni" Subject: Re: Alternatives to gcc (was Re: gcc 4.3: when will it become standard compiler?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:59:20 -0000 Peter Ross wrote: > Hi Tim, > > AFAIK you _need_ a C compiler to keep your system secure, to apply > security patches. > > E.g. http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-09:02.openssl.asc > > .. > make obj && make depend && make && make install > Or more recently, freebsd-update fetch && freebsd-update install its really not needed if you are just following -RELEASE except of course for ports. Vince > .. > > Of course there are build-boxes etc. so you only need a compiler once. But > still, you need a box to compile it. > > Regards > Peter > > On Sun, 11 Jan 2009, Tim Kientzle wrote: > >