From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 20 13:09:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCCF860; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from vps1.elischer.org (vps1.elischer.org [204.109.63.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBDD17BD; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:09:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Julian-MBP3.local (ppp121-45-226-51.lns20.per1.internode.on.net [121.45.226.51]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps1.elischer.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r5KD9mf1027022 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:09:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <51C2FF16.5080005@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:09:42 +0800 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Chisnall Subject: Re: svn commit: r251886 - in head: contrib/apr contrib/apr-util contrib/serf contrib/sqlite3 contrib/subversion share/mk usr.bin usr.bin/svn usr.bin/svn/lib usr.bin/svn/lib/libapr usr.bin/svn/lib/libap... References: <201306180253.r5I2rj45053959@svn.freebsd.org> <11DA3D8A-AD20-4DE1-B807-D09814F61947@bsdimp.com> <51C1C7BD.9060201@FreeBSD.org> <201306191113.29703.jhb@freebsd.org> <8D00BE2B-FD8E-4E7B-B818-1C4B7F6BB6A5@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: src-committers@freebsd.org, Andre Oppermann , Peter Wemm , John Baldwin , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, Tijl Coosemans , Warner Losh X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:09:59 -0000 On 6/20/13 4:40 PM, David Chisnall wrote: > On 20 Jun 2013, at 00:10, Warner Losh wrote: > >>> - FreeBSD developers, who are probably okay with installing a port, but would prefer a version that didn't depend on kitchen/sink? >>> >>> - Users, who wish to be able to update the source tree and then either build world, or build some optional parts that are not part of the default install? >>> >>> - Some other category of svn consumer? >>> >>> I think having a definitive statement as to the intention of svnlite would help frame the discussion in a more productive format. >> How do I roll back to last week with FreeBSD-update? > Which of the classes of user that I outlined do you think wants to be able to do that? As a FreeBSD user, I never felt the desire to do that, but maybe I was unusual. As a FreeBSD developer, I don't mind installing the svn port to be able to do it (although I'd prefer a more lightweight port). I would expect the same to apply to the sort of engaged user who is willing to bisect to track down a bug. bug reporter: I have this new bug... developer: Can you try rolling back to xyzzy bug reporter: Yeah that fixes it.. developer: Ok.. patch will follow.... > > David >