From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 23:29:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556E2C3D; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 23:29:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7008FC13; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 23:29:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id l1so4018146vba.13 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:29:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=D6dRtRyLfM7hiaF9s+w4t2fEw6Gw4fqY+BetgMUXztY=; b=QYh8HdqvjhofKHgzzsXnvtkWNZMohJechYwmaiuw4yXe5On94gkUYm2lG79VzR3HyK p34UuKKKgrw7f7F0vsG9PnCBuGasAy78xyUtVD9lTF+gueif6tCmIdy7XGAkyg7RrvOx GR8mh/OiCuEm5rDu1dj5xA7E0um3k0eO18BZMPZXGhqqrz8frB50Fmm9rsqriyJuxC9r wCSdolgHo+hk2O/G6TrP+7gpoGwQxz3IE6/9C3gK7Nv8uB65pMyBo1L/TbSvfCzWJRsy BtMJYNN0o2mKyInFjGsFKf2tNHEKGYIqG0YU+D2dnXo0Oqtg4vtf9V0YGmmnzb5Rs3jT wqTA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.67.133 with SMTP id n5mr8676919vdt.24.1355182148068; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:29:08 -0800 (PST) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.58.201.202 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:29:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201212101735.KAA02736@lariat.net> References: <201212090318.UAA11257@lariat.net> <50C4A341.9070903@FreeBSD.org> <201212092031.NAA17017@lariat.net> <201212092215.PAA17770@lariat.net> <201212101735.KAA02736@lariat.net> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:29:08 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: FSk7S_mafwqpcQv1oSMDWEH_rzQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas? From: Adrian Chadd To: Brett Glass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Dimitry Andric X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 23:29:09 -0000 On 10 December 2012 09:34, Brett Glass wrote: > I've thought about donating manpower; tried to many years ago, in fact. > But I was deterred by the egos, the politics, and the territoriality and > hotheadedness of some of the developers. So, most of my contributions > of code (and I have made quite a few) have been passed quietly through > committers so as to avoid this. Maybe the situation is better now; I don't > know. There's politics in every organisation. There are ego clashes in every organisation. Sometimes you'll fit in, sometimes you won't. If you feel there are issues, find people inside the community who you do get along well with and talk with them about it. It sucks, yes. I'm one of those "shut up and code already" types and I deal badly with politics. But somehow I have a commit bit and get away with breaking things. :-) > As for monetary donations: We are not a large corporation, and so could only > make relatively small ones as opposed to more valuable "in kind" donations. Even a $5k a year donation from 25 organisations is a significant chunk of money to the foundation. Please don't believe that you can't have a positive effect from a small donation. the foundation will definitely benefit from any and all contributions, no matter how small. I'd rather see the Foundation funded from thousands of small donations a year than a handful of big ones. Adrian