From owner-freebsd-current Sun Feb 11 01:16:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA22994 for current-outgoing; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 01:16:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from tfs.com (tfs.com [140.145.250.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA22988 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 01:16:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.tfs.com by tfs.com (smail3.1.28.1) with SMTP id m0tlXtW-0003wPC; Sun, 11 Feb 96 01:16 PST Received: from localhost.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA06114; Sun, 11 Feb 1996 10:16:43 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: critter.tfs.com: Host localhost.tfs.com didn't use HELO protocol To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: KentH@HNS.St-Louis.Mo.US, julian@ref.tfs.com (Julian Elischer), terry@lambert.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FS PATCHES: THE NEXT GENERATION In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 09 Feb 1996 23:48:48 PST." <23357.823938528@time.cdrom.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 10:16:42 +0100 Message-ID: <6112.824030202@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I *strongly* disagree with you. If I change the dev's on my firewall > > I expect 'em to damn well stay changed and the first time they don't > > I first go searching for the person that hacked the firewall, then > > finding nothing, I dump it and rebuild it from scratch assuming that > > I've just been badly beaten at my game. Now you tell me that they won't > > stay that way? I dump it and get a new o/s. > > FWIW, this is almost word-for-word what the folks at USENIX told me > and Julian will almost certainly never convince me that this is a > problem that can be dismissed lightly. I will fight long and hard for > compatibility because I happen to think that I'm 100% right about how > users will feel about this, and if no one else will speak for them, > I will. Funny you should say that, I'm sure the Julian and I are 100% right as well :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so.