From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 30 05:19:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30E5216A4CE for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 05:19:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D749243D2F for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 05:19:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2004 05:19:54 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: "Jeremy C. Reed" Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:19:54 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412292119.54766.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: Tim Kellers Subject: Re: BSD Certification ? Why not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 05:19:55 -0000 On Wednesday 29 December 2004 07:52 pm, "Jeremy C. Reed" wrote: > On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > > On Wednesday 29 December 2004 12:23 pm, pablo.delgado@lsi.mine.nu wrote: > > > Why not create a FreeBSD Certification Program. The community can > > > form an non profit or profit organization (which ever suites > > > best) and team (elected by the FreeBSD Foundation or the FreeBSD > > > community, which ever works best) to design, develop and manage a > > > certification program that will teach and test essential skills > > > and knowledge needed to manage, support or develop the FreeBSD > > > environment. > > > > There is one at the New Jersey Institute of Technology. > > http://cpe.njit.edu/opensourceunix/ > > Thanks for the link. It is always good to hear about *BSD classes > being offered. > > I don't see anything about "certification" or evaluating skills there > other than it says complete the three stages and receive > certification. Yes, there you go. > It just looks like normal FreeBSD classes like I have been teaching > for around four years (which also have a "certificate of course > completion"). Perhaps that's true, but in any case the certification is considered valid by at least FreeBSD. I'm not sure what it means to the industry in general, but there is some guarantee that you will know your FreeBSD stuff if you go that route. > Except they say "eLearning" -- my classes are in a real classroom > environment. (We do hope to soon start providing *BSD training with > video soon ... starting with Apache Web Server Administration.) The classes are offered both on campus and online. > > It's the only one I know of, and it's the only one officially > > approved by the FreeBSD team. As that is the case, I'm sure more > > people doing this would be welcome, but I don't speak for FreeBSD > > or what they might actually want to have happen. > > Where can I find out more about being "officially approved by the > FreeBSD team"? I'm not sure, but I'll CC this to Tim Kellers, who is the instructor and author of the course in question. It may take a while for him to respond, considering school schedules and such. As Tim put it in an earlier email to the -questions list, "The NJIT curriculum, while non-credit and classified as 'Professional Development' is the Only University level course in the world that is both sanctioned as a bona fide certificate program (certificate endorsed by NJIT) AND endorsed by the FreeBSD foundation.  (If you don't believe me, e-mail Robert Watson of the core FreeBSD team.)" I'm not in any way speaking for him, but I've looked into it in the past, so I had the information about it handy. - jt