From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 06:54:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B981065673 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:54:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpaulo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A788FC18 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:54:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf2 with SMTP id 2so430549gyf.13 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:54:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=ISaCiYytrwX6t5J1An8l/rm120MlWpaLja+4q9XhibI=; b=bc2eU+CHdqpq2CQAZ4GDhq+e0+DchxDQT/4aN7aqpt3wCDkAqmcTtcenDezTIOnPpN 1Mvl6B2TlcWGI9k+6ueIHuD1mCoTRSDq9+dLz8cNFEclarA30X3lm73xUY1w3XWEhHiH aC05ceaea5i7NeCu+yZe7s+ohlxU1/uB1hbWw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=F5Xvud/dNd+20GXC1L1AOh3IiqGRqi68vxsyvV9hGpeukCwK6I8lVyPuviIJtdkt+d QYQiL9+PcD3R9WiKLuunpWRcwjukNpRa/RSyabAW0uo6LGP1UZ2Z4hkdTF5zRQZ6y1x8 XvoZIwcxF+EiolrV71PGwbDpX9EACgF+IibC4= Received: by 10.91.98.18 with SMTP id a18mr2747303agm.55.1268290487346; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:54:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.11.61] (197.214.32.202.bf.2iij.net [202.32.214.197]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm5711665gxk.8.2010.03.10.22.54.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:54:46 -0800 (PST) Sender: Rui Paulo Message-Id: <375DA2C3-DF03-4043-B069-123E2F20ECD3@FreeBSD.org> From: Rui Paulo To: Matthias Apitz In-Reply-To: <20100309085449.GA2577@current.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:54:42 +0900 References: <20100308142005.GA2971@current.Sisis.de> <20100309081635.GA4161@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20100309085449.GA2577@current.Sisis.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: Peter Jeremy , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hardlocks in 8-CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:54:48 -0000 On 9 Mar 2010, at 17:54, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Tuesday, March 09, 2010 a las 07:16:35PM +1100, Peter Jeremy =20= > escribi=F3: > >> On 2010-Mar-08 15:20:05 +0100, Matthias Apitz =20 >> wrote: >>> from time to time I encounter that the laptop after opening the =20 >>> lid is >>> just locked, i.e. hardlocked and does not even respond on ping =20 >>> from other >>> places; I did tests to see when it crashes, i.e. if it is based on =20= >>> the >>> movement, of WLAN AP re-connect or whatever; I now always first =20 >>> open it, work a >>> while across WLAN and then plug-in the power; the lock occurs only =20= >>> on >>> the plug-in of the power-supply; >>> >>> any idea what to do next for debugging this? thanks > > Hello Peter, > > Thanks for your reply; > >> >> Firstly, 8-current means you're running a build more than 3 months =20= >> old. > > do be more exactly: it is a 8-CURRENT based on CVS checkout from end =20= > of > May 2009; > >> Have you considered upgrading? > > this is at the moment no option because it is my laptop to do real =20 > work > all day; I think that it's not expected for CURRENT to be very stable and it's =20= more less expected that you are able to follow current because sooner =20= or later you'll have problems like the one you have. I suggest you =20 run STABLE. That aside, hardlocks are hard to debug, specially while on X. My =20 first try would be to remove drivers one by one. -- Rui Paulo