From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Apr 6 14:03:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12903 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:03:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12894 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:03:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id OAA29436 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com(207.76.205.64) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma029432; Mon Apr 6 14:02:02 1998 Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA23892 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:02:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:02:02 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199804062102.OAA23892@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Professional asssociations that may be of interest Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've gathered the sense that many of the folks on the -newbies list would be interested in learning more -- both about FreeBSD (in particular, and possibly other systems as well), and about (some of) the history behind all this. A resource that I find useful is the USENIX association (http://www.usenix.org/). The bimonthly publication of the Association is called ";login:", and this month's issue inaugurates a regular feature, "Source Code UNIX for PCs." The author, Robert Gray, has a FreeBSD background; this promises to be of (significant) interest to many in the community. In addition to ";login:", the Association sponsors various conferences. (I note that I have seen such folks as Dennis Ritchie, Ken thompson, and Rob Pike -- as well as many of the BSD folks at USENIX conferences....) Perhaps even more interesting (from a practical standpoint) is a group within USENIX called "SAGE" -- the System Administrators Guild (http://www.usenix.org/sage). As its name indicates, it is oriented toward the more practical aspects of persuading (networks of) computers to do what is desired, and as a support group for those of us who do this (in some cases, for a living). SAGE also sponsors conferences: the LISA (Large Installation System Administration) conferences. Also, some parts of the world have local UNIX-oriented groups. I happen to be in the San Francisco Bay area (Berkeley is just across the Bay), and in this area we have a group called BayLISA (San Francisco Bay Area Large Installation System Administrators: http://www.baylisa.org/). And just like ACM (Association for Computing Machinery) meetings, BayLISA meetings are open to the public (and, in the BayLISA case, generally transmitted over the Mbone). (There's also a Silicon Valley Linux Users Group, which draws a significant crowd.) And of course, if there isn't a group where you are, you might be able to help start one.... I hope the above proves useful for some of you.... david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com (650) 577-7158 pager: (650) 401-0168 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message