Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 14:46:09 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> To: Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> Cc: jail@freebsd.org, "Michael W. Lucas" <mwlucas@michaelwlucas.com>, Sean Chittenden <seanc@groupon.com> Subject: Re: preferred jail management tool Message-ID: <20150127141239.V77290@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20150127012347.GA4940@lonesome.com> References: <CACfj5vKjiQHsy9VbOKFFcrBpyr3dmbkOOxTxCYhSyZrnrjRiaQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAHieY7TyxzC0aK-ErY2EbCmTJPykk_9G7Gd=CrZ9yxQ-77PynA@mail.gmail.com> <20150127012347.GA4940@lonesome.com>
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 19:23:48 -0600, Mark Linimon wrote: [Sean Chittenden wrote:] > > > For years I've used and endorsed ezjail, but as stated, it is depreciated. > > Hmm, there's no notation at > http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portoverview.py?category=sysutils&portname=ezjail , > nor in the Makefile AFAICT. > > > > For a book, excluding ezjail would exclude a huge portion of the user base > > > and seems like it would hurt credibility given its dominance as the > > > preferred tool for jail administration. I agree with this; given its history and installed base it certainly deserves some coverage with at least references to its documentation, as a precursor to more recently emerging, likely more comprehensive tools. > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:54:50PM -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > Maybe is something obvious to the more technical crowd but as a user what > > does "depreciated" mean in this context? > > Really the word most people use is "deprecated" rather than "depreciated". > > It can mean any number of things: > > - it no longer works due to changes in other software > - it has been replaced by something else > - the author is no longer interested in maintaining it > > and so forth. > > I don't know the answer in this case. As Alejandro went on to point out, depreciate means (ref Concise Oxford) 'Diminish in value' or 'Lower market price of; reduce purchasing power of (money); disparage, belittle' (L. pretiare f. pretium price), while deprecate means 'Plead against; express wish against or disapproval of (L. precari pray). Different, with some overlap regarding belittlement. The former term is prominent in Joe's http://jail-primer.sourceforge.net/ cheers, Ian
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