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Date:      Wed, 30 Aug 1995 03:51:54 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com>
To:        jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Cc:        paul@FreeBSD.org, jkh@freefall.FreeBSD.org, CVS-commiters@freefall.FreeBSD.org, cvs-gnu@freefall.FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/send-pr Makefile
Message-ID:  <199508301051.DAA07817@gndrsh.aac.dev.com>
In-Reply-To: <2289.809769683@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Aug 30, 95 01:01:23 am

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> 
> > And a command interface wrapper that is compatible with sendbug.  Shell
> > scripts written for automagic sendbug sending are going to barf on gnats.
> 
> Which ones are those?

Auspex boxes for one, but I guess I can always redo it when I desire that
functionality for a FreeBSD class NFS super engine.  Let me see, ah, all
the mirror wrapper stuff I wrote back when we used sendbug for the
patchkit and such would fail to mirror correctly.


> > IMHO, this is an incompatibility hack with every other BSD system in
> > existence.  If it is called ``sendbug'' it had better behave exactly
> > like sendbug or people and shell scripts are going for a shocker.
> 
> No more or less than if it comes back with sendbug: command not found.

And I don't necessarily agree that it should do that, I guess the
real guts of it are that bugfiler is now missing, so those sites
that used BSD systems and the bugfiler (not many, but I have named
at least 1 commercial vendor that does ship there system standard
that way, right down to the point that every single panic has an
auto invokation of sendbug, and the necessary servers running at
headquarters to get them).

For smaller sites who want a nice little bug filling system bugfiler and
sendbug are a snap to set up.  We have a small part of gnats in the
tree, but what is there does not provide the customer with any server
side.

> The manual pages in 4.4 just reference `sendbug' as an interactive
> command you're supposed to run.  In that context, and it's the major
> one, I don't see a problem.

You missed the whole other side of sendbug mentioned in the real
4.4 BSD manuals... 

> Next argument please.

Gnats is neat and full of very complex features, bugfiler/sendbug is
small and easy to use and manage.  Much like emacs is large and complex
and hard to use, and ee is small and simple...  :-).  Get my drift...

-- 
Rod Grimes                                      rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com
Accurate Automation Company                 Reliable computers for FreeBSD



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