From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Mon Jun 13 13:22:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D78AF06D3 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2016 13:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@komquats.com) Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0E9627FB for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2016 13:22:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@komquats.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([96.50.22.10]) by shaw.ca with SMTP id CRoVbjDz0N9d0CRoWbegui; Mon, 13 Jun 2016 07:22:02 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=QZUkhYTv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=jvE2nwUzI0ECrNeyr98KWA==:117 a=jvE2nwUzI0ECrNeyr98KWA==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=pD_ry4oyNxEA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=NEAV23lmAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=xqMA591lfbPk8La3hPoA:9 a=ZUGwP7LCt9cA:10 a=FSu5OgGmP5kA:10 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 a=Bn2pgwyD2vrAyMmN8A2t:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA80F13753; Mon, 13 Jun 2016 06:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slippy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u5DDLwHx091839; Mon, 13 Jun 2016 06:21:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Message-Id: <201606131321.u5DDLwHx091839@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.6 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> cc: Cy Schubert , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Illumos/OpenSolaris SMF to FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message from Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> of "Mon, 13 Jun 2016 12:14:29 +0200." <575E8785.4000203@quip.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 06:21:58 -0700 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfNLpOb+PPqgKgBs9BWR9ZrxG9aBgo3Ut8OyzCnr/I3nOhVz8+rv9nVKCAPdaA5/O0i0IOs33YW+Y5KkegHjXAqjeeHCy/Q3bFFyHsVu8rxTL/h8H/dZB OomwPNiyC5Ug+IutsfOv4pLklkdowLYqJ9CWsB3YLNHhwwFPJrLneJ8s5U0spL4XHiGaJolOisqh3DpCRFkoufUdJ/O8jtP7iU8= X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 13:22:10 -0000 In message <575E8785.4000203@quip.cz>, Miroslav Lachman writes: > Cy Schubert wrote on 06/10/2016 19:23: > > Hi, > > > > What are people's thoughts about porting Illumos Service Management > > Facility (SMF) to FreeBSD? The Solaris SMF didn't replace their init(8), > > it's started by their init(8) through inittab -- we could use ttys or > > replace init. > > > > Like DTrace and ZFS, SMF is CDDL. Does that matter? > > > There are some work on port of Launchd / ReLaunchd (jobd) / Open Launchd > / nosh etc. > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/launchd > https://github.com/mheily/jobd > https://github.com/freebsd/openlaunchd I attended MNark's talk, via youtube live stream, at BSDCan. He pointed out the issues and that the search continues. > > https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-07-2015-09.html#The-nosh-Proj > ect > > I personally prefer nosh but "anything" should be better than current state. I come from a mainframe (MVS, z/OS) background working with NetView and JES/2 & JES/3, including 10,000 lines of assembler source code mods to JES/2. I personally would like to see a mainframe class solution however it does not fit the UNIX philosophy. I'm sure we could borrow ideas. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.