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Date:      Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:06:19 -0800
From:      Garrett Cooper <youshi10@u.washington.edu>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Trying to join an already exited pthread
Message-ID:  <45CC014B.9020303@u.washington.edu>
In-Reply-To: <45CB38D8.1000706@u.washington.edu>
References:  <Pine.LNX.4.43.0702071314560.22034@hymn08.u.washington.edu>	<eqdhl2$1tmb$1@wattres.Watt.COM>	<87D4B047-DC72-427B-863F-A082C3A4E5CD@u.washington.edu> <45CB38D8.1000706@u.washington.edu>

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Garrett Cooper wrote:
> Garrett Cooper wrote:
>> On Feb 7, 2007, at 1:51 PM, Steve Watt wrote:
>>
>>> In <Pine.LNX.4.43.0702071314560.22034@hymn08.u.washington.edu>,
>>>  <youshi10@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>>>> Just wondering:
>>>>
>>>> If I was to try and join a pthread that already exited, would there 
>>>> be an error
>>>> message output and/or errno set to an error value, or would a system 
>>>> hang?
>>>
>>> Was the thread created with detach state set PTHREAD_CREATE_DETACHED or
>>> PTHREAD_CREATE_JOINABLE?  If it was PTHREAD_CREATE_JOINABLE, has the
>>> thread already been joined?
>>>
>>> You should be able to join a thread that was created joinable, only 
>>> once.
>>> If you join it again, or join a thread that was created detached, the
>>> results are unspecified in POSIX.  There is an error status that may
>>> be returned, but it may do other bad things to your system.
>>>
>>> Note that pthread_join doesn't set errno; it returns an error value
>>> directly.  I would never expect the system to hang, though the 
>>> application
>>> might.  If your application is hanging, make sure that you're not trying
>>> to call pthread_join from within a signal handler.
>>>
>>>> It this variable on Unix OSes?
>>>
>>> That the results are unspecified?  No.  What "unspecified" means?
>>> Absolutely.
>>> --Steve Watt KD6GGD  PP-ASEL-IA          ICBM: 121W 56' 57.5" / 37N 
>>> 20' 15.3"
>>>  Internet: steve @ Watt.COM                      Whois: SW32-ARIN
>>>    Free time?  There's no such thing.  It just comes in varying 
>>> prices...
>>
>>     I asked this because I was short on time and so was the person who 
>> asked me earlier. I'm going to try giving the pthread exit and join a 
>> shot just to see whether or not this is true or not and then I'll 
>> report my results to the list.
>>     Thanks for the insight though--hopefully my results will yield a 
>> solid positive or negative to this being a problem.
>> -Garrett
> 
> Under Suse Linux there were absolutely no errors when I tried to do 
> this. I'll post a code snippet later.
> -Garrett

Ok, here's a link to my code:

http://students.washington.edu/youshi10/posted/thread_test.c

My results (FreeBSD):

[root@hoover /home/gcooper]# ./tt
Thread join detached
Thread kill detached
Joined thread yielded error code: 2
Trying to join the already joined thread yields error code: 0

My results (Suse Linux):

# ./tt
Thread join detached
Thread kill detached
Joined thread yielded error code: 0
Trying to join the already joined thread yields error code: 0

That was sure interesting.. is it supposed to error out or was it the 
remnant of an old error call?

Probably the latter, but I was just curious..

-Garrett



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