From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 18:09:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC2D1065697 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:09:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB0F8FC2F for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:09:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA1I8sJe011581; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:08:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA1I8qBC011578; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:08:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:08:51 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Yuri In-Reply-To: <490C955C.2010201@rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20081101190520.Y11557@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081101160415.GB14218@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081101174556.L11029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <490C955C.2010201@rawbw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:09:03 -0000 >> and why you need "desktop" (whatever it means) at all? > > You need desktop for Unix (Linux) to be adopted by simple users. why you want unix be adopted by simple users? they already have windows - perfect for them, and exactly what they deserve > Also GUI makes life much easier even for advanced users. exactly wrong. it make my life harder. these "advanced" users you say don't like to read manuals and do once simple config taking few minutes. > Unfortunately open source is pretty much a failure when it comes to GUI and > desktop. Any kind of GUI, look at ddd for example. Untested development-stage > software (like kde4) is being released to the public for some reason. they try to compete with windoze - so they behave the same way! who first learned that giving unfinished/buggy/incomplete software to users is a good (in marketing point of view) thing? Microsoft! they learn from it.