From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 7 19:16:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064511065672 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 19:16:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com (dorsai-02.celestial.com [192.136.111.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE7E8FC13 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 19:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77A820201D2 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 10:50:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at celestial.com Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dorsai-02.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id VJjdZQCiIBtT for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 10:50:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5CB2019653 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 10:50:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B29F512C2; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 10:50:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id P4Olneegtax3; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 10:50:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 68585512CA; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 10:50:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 10:50:54 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101107185054.GA29085@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4CD45A11.7060002@stillbilde.net> <20101105213433.GC8648@guilt.hydra> <4CD4DD2C.1090407@too1337.com> <20101106161031.GB12418@guilt.hydra> <4CD6DF1F.9040604@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4CD6DF1F.9040604@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 OpenPKG/CURRENT (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: ZFS License and Future X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 19:16:39 -0000 On Sun, Nov 07, 2010, Matthew Seaman wrote: >On 06/11/2010 16:10, Chad Perrin wrote: >> Will Oracle lawyers >> find some patent related to the creation of that software the company >> "owns" and use that to sue you if you fork the project to ensure the >> survival of your own development projects? It seems somewhat likely, >> somehow. > >Oracle couldn't sue for patent violations on software that they (or >their predecessors) had released and that people were using as-is. >That's legitimate use under license from the software's originators. > >Nor could they sue successfully over some completely novel >implementation that avoided patented areas. ROFL! Couldn't Sue? In the U.S.? SCO has been suing the world for years for using Linux when SCO distributed it under the GPL for years, years after their original lawsuits. All that's necessary to sue is willing lawyers and lots of cash. I have always thought that a major factor in Microsoft's sucess was initially Bill's Daddy's law firm, and later Microsoft's legal department ready to sue cometitors into oblivion. >I doubt that any free software project would have sufficient funds to >pursue such a case through the courts. On the other hand, representatives from the Samba team were very instrumental in EU rulings related to Microsoft. I don't remember the details offhand, but I'm sure it's in the groklaw archives and searchable. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 ...government has nothing to give to anybody that it doesn't first take from somebody else. In other workds, all its relief and subsidy schemes are merely ways of robbing Peter to support Paul -- Henry Hazlitt