From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Feb 16 4:18:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from shale.csir.co.za (shale.csir.co.za [146.64.46.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1213B37B402; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 04:18:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from reg@localhost) by shale.csir.co.za (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1GCGtv68606; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 14:16:55 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from reg) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 14:16:54 +0200 From: Jeremy Lea To: Jamie Zawinski Cc: "Jose M. Alcaide" , dougb@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, Ade Lovett Subject: Re: ports/34172: xscreensaver 4.00 problem with GNOME Message-ID: <20020216141654.B60480@shale.csir.co.za> Mail-Followup-To: Jeremy Lea , Jamie Zawinski , "Jose M. Alcaide" , dougb@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, Ade Lovett References: <3C6A2EF9.4C565D70@jwz.org> <20020213111916.B230@v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es> <3C6E1B7C.4B6C6F60@jwz.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3C6E1B7C.4B6C6F60@jwz.org>; from jwz@jwz.org on Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 12:42:36AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 12:42:36AM -0800, Jamie Zawinski wrote: > I implore anyone responsible for packaging xscreensaver or Gnome > distributions to throw away the screensaver-properties capplet that > comes with gnomecc, and use the one that comes with xscreensaver > instead. On FreeBSD we've done just that, although there was a little flamefest when the changes where made to the port, because when --enable-gnome is supplied to xscreensaver it moves the location of it's configuration files. It's probably going to result in xscreensaver being patched to always put it's files in the same place, because that way we don't have to have the ugliness of working out where the files are before generating a packaging list. What are your feelings on always putting the files in the same place? (I've cc'd the flamers ;) As for GNOME distributing things. All I can say is that as someone who's been working on FreeBSD's GNOME ports for three years now, I've lost hope that the GNOME maintainers will ever understand the concept of release engineering. I got my first response to a patch to gnomemedia that I submitted in May 1999 (adding FreeBSD support to gtcd), claiming the bug was resolved, as invalid, because the code had changed in between... I nearly went and changed the license on the patches so they can never be licensed under the GPL. Regards, -Jeremy -- FreeBSD - Because the best things in life are free... http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message