From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Wed Nov 29 18:59:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB16E65D7A for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 18:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steffen@sdaoden.eu) Received: from sdaoden.eu (sdaoden.eu [217.144.132.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A0D80E2B for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 18:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steffen@sdaoden.eu) Received: by sdaoden.eu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4D80B16045; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 19:50:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 19:50:37 +0100 From: Steffen Nurpmeso To: Daniel Eischen Cc: Jamie Landeg-Jones , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, bsd-lists@BSDforge.com, khanzf@gmail.com Subject: Re: The future of fortune(6) Message-ID: <20171129185037.6qBUI%steffen@sdaoden.eu> References: <46c6014e118501a00c4fb76e051cb880@udns.ultimatedns.net> <201711291336.vATDanka032779@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> In-Reply-To: Mail-Followup-To: Daniel Eischen , Jamie Landeg-Jones , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, bsd-lists@BSDforge.com, khanzf@gmail.com User-Agent: s-nail v14.9.5-35-g0ff8866f OpenPGP: id=232C220BCB5690A37BD22FFDEB66022795F382CE; url=https://www.sdaoden.eu/downloads/steffen.asc BlahBlahBlah: Any stupid boy can crush a beetle. But all the professors in the world can make no bugs. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 18:59:05 -0000 Daniel Eischen wrote: |On Wed, 29 Nov 2017, Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote: |> And related to that is editting/pruning the message you're replying to ;-) ... |> As for the fortune bikeshed, I think there are 2 seperate issues that have |> been raised, and conflated. |> |> 1) Whether the offensive datafile should have been removed. ... |And considering that -base is being pkg'ized, shouldn't have the |question been "should we keep it in base or move it to ports"? |It'll be a package regardless, and just [supposing] because it's |in -base doesn't mean it gets installed by default. | |Not much of an opinion on fortune(6), though sad to see most of it |culled. But perhaps future Danish axings should wait and see how |pkg-ized base plays out? Ask where do we want to maintain it, base |or ports; it can be optionally installed either way. | |And is history saved when moving things from base to ports? And: are children raised cleaner when they never come in contact with the dark side. I think no, it is either itself brainwashing (many of the Hitlerjugend really believed, did they) or a sign of mental immaturity or weakness of the parents. Some cultures however force(d) special skull or other bone forms for their youth by putting the bone(s) in question in splints. That works. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)