From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 11 00:32:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A1316A427 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:32:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DE243D46 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:32:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id jAB0WmUl000615 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:32:48 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [128.208.4.22] (shiina.dyn.cs.washington.edu [128.208.4.22]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id jAB0Wl2m006404 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:32:47 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <810a540e0511101338jaa9ec9cs3cc5dfdad52cc4df@mail.gmail.com> References: <810a540e0511100310s33a8241aj607cbbe23d76d38e@mail.gmail.com> <27EC1BA2-04E6-4E20-89C7-CE7CE8BFCD40@u.washington.edu> <810a540e0511101107o79d5ad73g6f49357eca79d58e@mail.gmail.com> <810a540e0511101338jaa9ec9cs3cc5dfdad52cc4df@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <77C08186-F4BC-4928-97E7-8D63AB562DD5@u.washington.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Garrett Cooper Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:32:47 -0800 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_CRUFT 0' Subject: Re: "Out of range" starting Xorg on dual display X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:32:50 -0000 On Nov 10, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Pat Maddox wrote: > On 11/10/05, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> >> On Nov 10, 2005, at 11:07 AM, Pat Maddox wrote: >> >>> On 11/10/05, Garrett Cooper wrote: >>>> On Nov 10, 2005, at 3:10 AM, Pat Maddox wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've got a dual display setup, and it had been working fine once I >>>>> finally got the config done. They're two displays running off one >>>>> graphics card, one through the DVI output and one through the D- >>>>> SUB. >>>>> Today I had to switch the inputs that the monitors use, and it >>>>> just >>>>> doesn't work anymore. I get a message on my left display that >>>>> says >>>>> "Out of range." This isn't an Xorg or FreeBSD error, it's a >>>>> message >>>>> from the displays built-in HUD. This doesn't make any sense >>>>> because >>>>> as far as Xorg is concerned, there shouldn't be any >>>>> difference. The >>>>> D-SUB display should be on the left, and the DVI one should be on >>>>> the >>>>> right. I really don't understand what could be causing a >>>>> problem, but >>>>> for what it's worth, the display now connected to the D-SUB has >>>>> always >>>>> been more finicky than my other display. They're a ViewSonic >>>>> vp201 >>>>> (D-SUB) and Dell 2001fp (DVI). Here's my config: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Section "ServerLayout" >>>>> Identifier "Dual Head" >>>>> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 >>>>> Screen 1 "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0" >>>>> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" >>>>> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >>>>> >>>>> Option "Xinerama" "true" >>>>> Option "Clone" "off" >>>>> EndSection >>>>> >>>>> Section "Files" >>>>> RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" >>>>> ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" >>>>> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" >>>>> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" >>>>> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" >>>>> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" >>>>> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" >>>>> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" >>>>> EndSection >>>>> >>>>> Section "Module" >>>>> Load "dbe" >>>>> #Load "dri" >>>>> Load "extmod" >>>>> Load "glx" >>>>> Load "record" >>>>> Load "xtrap" >>>>> Load "freetype" >>>>> Load "type1" >>>>> EndSection >>>>> >>>>> Section "InputDevice" >>>>> Identifier "Keyboard0" >>>>> Driver "kbd" >>>>> EndSection >>>>> >>>>> Section "InputDevice" >>>>> Identifier "Mouse0" >>>>> Driver "mouse" >>>>> Option "Protocol" "auto" >>>>> Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" >>>>> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" >>>>> EndSection >>>>> >>>>> Section "Monitor" >>>>> Identifier "Monitor0" >>>>> VendorName "Vendor Name" >>>>> ModelName "Model Name" >>>>> EndSection >>>>> >>>>> Section "Device" >>>>> Identifier "Card0" >>>>> Driver "nvidia" >>>>> VendorName "nVidia Corporation" >>>>> BoardName "NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4600]" >>>>> BusID "PCI:1:0:0" >>>>> Screen 0 >>>>> Option "RenderAccel" "true" >>>>> Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true" >>>>> EndSection >>>>> >>>>> Section "Device" >>>>> Identifier "Card1" >>>>> Driver "nvidia" >>>>> VendorName "nVidia Corporation" >>>>> BoardName "NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4600]" >>>>> BusID "PCI:1:0:0" >>>>> Screen 1 >>>>> Option "RenderAccel" "true" >>>>> Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true" >>>>> EndSection >>>>> >>>>> Section "Screen" >>>>> Identifier "Screen0" >>>>> Device "Card0" >>>>> Monitor "Monitor0" >>>>> DefaultDepth 24 >>>>> >>>>> SubSection "Display" >>>>> Viewport 0 0 >>>>> Depth 24 >>>>> Modes "1600x1200" >>>>> EndSubSection >>>>> EndSection >>>>> >>>>> Section "Screen" >>>>> Identifier "Screen1" >>>>> Device "Card1" >>>>> Monitor "Monitor0" >>>>> DefaultDepth 24 >>>>> >>>>> SubSection "Display" >>>>> Viewport 0 0 >>>>> Depth 24 >>>>> EndSubSection >>>>> EndSection >>>> >>>> The issue is with your refresh rates on one of the >>>> monitors is out >>>> of range. So what you need to do is go online, search for the >>>> maximum >>>> resolution for your monitors, and match it with the maximum >>>> supported >>>> resolution for your card along with the individual monitor's >>>> maximum >>>> resolution. >>>> -Garrett >>>> >>> >>> Thanks for the reply. >>> >>> I checked out what refresh rates they're using in Windows, and both >>> monitors are set to 60. The finicky monitor apparently can run >>> at 60, >>> 70, or 72. >>> >>> I set the VertRefresh to 60, start up Xorg, and now I'm not getting >>> the error, but it's really flickery. Really, it's more like a bunch >>> of lines are scrolling down very quickly, it's not flicker, so >>> something definitely isn't right. If I set the VertRefresh to a >>> range, like 60-72, I still get that Out of Range error. I haven't >>> been able to find out exactly what refresh rates to use, because >>> these >>> are LCDs and the refresh rates given in ms, not Hertz. Not really >>> sure what that means. >>> >>> Thanks for the reply, seems like I'm getting closer...I'd appreciate >>> any more help you can give me. >>> >>> Pat >> >> Pat, >> That's not the actual refresh range for the monitor, it's >> just the >> currently used range. >> What you want to do is search for "{maker} {model} horizontal >> refresh" in google; the pages which come up are the ones you want to >> refer to for your xorg.conf configuration. >> Also, just as a sidenote, setting the refresh rate of the >> monitor to >> the highest possible range will help your eyes as they are accustomed >> to a higher refresh rate than 60 Hz >> -Garrett >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > I called up ViewSonic tech support to get the info from them, and they > said that the recommended vertical refresh rate is 60Hz, and the > supported horizontal range is 30-92kHz. So I added a HorizSync 30-92 > line and a VertRefresh 60 line. I'm still getting the same problem as > earlier when there was output, I run "Xorg -config myconfig" and it > looks like it's scrolling or something. 60Hz is the recommended > refresh rate, so I don't have any clue what the problem is. > > Pat Unfortunately that isn't a range though; it's just a set value. So just give me the model number and I'll tell you how I got where I needed to go and where to go to find the solution, because it seems like you can't find the right google results (and I don't blame you because sometimes it's hard to find the right answer in Google queries). -Garrett