From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 31 05:17:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8191916A4CE for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2004 05:17:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mailout1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FF643D48 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2004 05:17:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from langd@informatik.tu-muenchen.de) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 15:13:04 +0200 From: Daniel Lang To: thomas mayr Message-ID: <20040331131304.GA25327@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <406AB940.6050101@uibk.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <406AB940.6050101@uibk.ac.at> X-Geek: GCS/CC d-- s: a- C++$ UBS++++$ P+++$ L- E-(---) W+++(--) N++ o K w--- O? 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PS+(++) PE--(+) Y+ PGP+ t++ 5+++ X R+(-) tv+ b+ DI++ D++ G++ e+++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at informatik.tu-muenchen.de cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chance for FreeBSD ADSM/TSM client from Tivoli/IBM X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:17:01 -0000 --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Thomas, (and maybe other hackers), thomas mayr wrote on Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 02:27:44PM +0200: >=20 > -- On Mon, 12 May 2003, Daniel Lang wrote: Yes, it's bin a while, since I wrote this. > > So everybody, who would have interest in a TSM BSD client, > > _please_ send me a short email about your demand, like > > > > [..] > > We are Organisation/Company $ABC, and we would benefit from > > BSD clients. Our demand would be around $xyz clients. > > [..] >=20 > We , Leopold-Franzens-Universitaet Innsbruck Institut of Computer=20 > Science, use TSM for our backups. A FreeBSD client would help us _very_= =20 > much. We currently have 5 BSD Servers that need to be backupped, with=20 > more expected. [..] Unfortunately, the effort was unsuccessful. Although I have received many e-mails of people in organizations, who would like such a client and have forwarded them to the people in charge, the offer our computing centre received from Tivoli was=20 inacceptable. In detail: a TSM 4.x client port could be provided for 25KEUR, with _NO_ support and no updates. A TSM 5.x client port would be provided for 125KEUR again without support and updates. Support may be purchased, but there was no commitment for maintenance of this port and future versions. Our computing centre turned this "offer" down. So if anyone else has possible better influence on the Tivoli product managers or can provide more leverage, please step forward and bring this issue to Tivoli's attention. You may ask me for the results of my demand-poll. I am happy to provide all the answers I have received. Best regards, Daniel P.S.: I still have machines using the Linux version of the TSM client, with ugly hacks, but I was not able to run a TSM 5.x client=20 on a FreeBSD 5.x box. :-/ --=20 IRCnet: Mr-Spock - "I hear that, if you play the WindowsXP CD backwards, you get a Satanic message!" - "That's nothing. If you play it forward, it installs WindowsXP!" 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