From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 21 18:50:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B8C37B401 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 18:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fubar.adept.org (fubar.adept.org [63.147.172.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4CB43E3B for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 18:50:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: by fubar.adept.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B07AA1527E; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 18:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fubar.adept.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE30A15247; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 18:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 18:50:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: Matthew Whelan Cc: "Fischer, Oliver" , Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: freebsd test matrix In-Reply-To: <20021021235512.C6F1.MUTTLEY@gotadsl.co.uk> Message-ID: <20021021184726.Q47993-100000@fubar.adept.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Matthew Whelan wrote: > On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:27:19 +0200 "Fischer, Oliver" wrote: > > Mike Hoskins wrote: > > > Clearly, this process indicates developers should write test cases for > > > their code... Unfortuneately, the last thing an opensource project needs > > > is more work for the developers. :) > > Yes, I know this argument but I think it isn't true. Only the start is > I couldn't agree more. Testing discovers bugs at a faster rate than > debugging, at least until the test becomes 'too big'. As a result, it Yes, of course... But say whatever you will, the biggest "holdup" in this case is giving developers time to writ tests, assuming they all agree to do so. I've been tracking progress of this thread, and posting general conclusions/decissions here: http://bsd.adept.org It seems there is certainly enough interest to continue this as a real "project". Although I think there are a couple things that makeup smaller "subprojects" on their own. Please take a lookt at the summary page. If you think any ideals should be added, let me know. Once we're all in agreement as to the general direction this should take, I'm happy to offer hosting, including accounts for any developers/contributors. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message