From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Oct 13 17:30:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC09A37B66C for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.47.12]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA28CF; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:33:25 -0700 Message-ID: <39E7A882.6F1D21D4@acuson.com> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:27:46 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick Hamell Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -newbies References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rick Hamell wrote: > My major problem is that the questions that are being asked in > newbies, are not newbie questions! Asking about setting up a pccard, or > NATD, or DNS, or firewall filters are not in my mind newbie-type > questions. What exactly are appropriate questions? There will always be someone on any list who won't follow the rules, but what about the rest of us? The intricacies of NAT or DNS certainly don't belong here. But what about installation issues (if you can't get it installed, odds are you're a newbie)? What programs to use (tcsh or bash)? Etc. If some questions are allowed but others are not, then there should be some sort of guidelines as to what is okay. I'm not trying to be belligerant. I fully understand your points. But I think -newbies should be more than just "I did something cool with FreeBSD last night." We are mere beginners with FreeBSD. That's why we're called newbies. At least give us a chance to learn to walk before demanding we run with the big boys. > But when was the last time such a question came across? In the > last year, I believe I've only seen one, maybe two posts that I think are > ontopic for -newbies. Huh? Are you serious! I recall discussions on the merits and disadvantages of various window managers, tales of triumph and woe, talks on the documentation situation as it applies to newbies, and of course the recent magazine discussion. All of these were appropriate because they were discussed by *newbies* from a *newbie* perspective. Geez, if we can't even talk about where to find documentation written for newbies, then go ahead and nuke the list because it's pretty useless... David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message