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Date:      Sat, 12 Feb 2000 02:29:58 +0100 (CET)
From:      Marc Schneiders <marc@oldserver.demon.nl>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        Julian Stacey <jhs@muc.de>, freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: free slow channel
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10002120226280.80433-100000@propro.oldserver.demon.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20000212105055.F89378@freebie.lemis.com>

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On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Greg Lehey wrote:

> On Thursday, 10 February 2000 at 16:33:15 +0000, Julian Stacey wrote:
> > A friend told me in [last weekend's (5&6 Feb 2000)?] Suddeutsche Zeitung
> > `Computer & Co' supplement, it reported that, as of 9/2000 Deutsche Telekom
> > would offer free continuous ISDN connection at low bandwidth.
> > I presume this is buried inside the 16K D channel,
> > I hope it's not tied into their own ISP service, but is generic,
> > Anyone know more ?  If I find out more I'll post.
> 
> I don't know about Germany, but I do know that another European
> carrier is experimenting with this idea.  I've been asked not to
> reveal which, though if you have been following the FreeBSD lists you
> should have seen the message and noticed what is going on.
> 

Please, give us a hint, someone. I suppose it won't be my country,
where the former state-owned telephone company still has a monopoly on
local calls. We pay $1.50 an hour for internet during office hours
(which are from 8 to 8 hours for this purpose).
If, it is us (NL=Netherlands=Holland), it might be nice to know asap
to start finding ways to set up things...

> > Apart from trickle feed for list mail etc, another example of use
> > maybe: Have one's site on internet all the time @ low speed, &
> > hack/hang a detector on the ftpd & httpd log file writing routines,
> > scan for interesting domains, & dial out via i4b if the client
> > request was coming from domains you'r prepared to pay telekom
> > charges for.
> 
> When I was living in Germany, I was very interested in D-channel ISDN
> for DNS lookups and such, which frequently caused significant cost
> (one unit per lookup).  I fixed that the obvious way, of course, with
> an off-site DNS primary.  It might be interesting for mail delivery as
> well, though.
> 
> Does anybody have an idea how fast D-channel ISDN would be?  I'd
> expect that you could get a significant portion of the 16 kb/s, so it
> wouldn't be *that* slow.
> 
> Greg
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