From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 6 14:23:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C758716A418; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA0913C455; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.15] (ydesk.samsco.home [192.168.254.15]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l96ENOKj083550; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 08:23:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <47079A5C.3090109@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 08:23:24 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050416 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?RGFnLUVybGluZyBTbcO4cmdyYXY=?= References: <200710052249.l95Mn9Nb071852@repoman.freebsd.org> <20071005231538.GA24016@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <2a41acea0710051705l217224b6vc705dc6139b94e3b@mail.gmail.com> <20071006004634.GA24962@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <47073AF5.1010109@samsco.org> <86d4vspk8j.fsf@ds4.des.no> In-Reply-To: <86d4vspk8j.fsf@ds4.des.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (pooker.samsco.org [192.168.254.1]); Sat, 06 Oct 2007 08:23:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: Jack F Vogel , cvs-src@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Jack Vogel , cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/conf files kern.pre.mk src/sys/dev/em LICENSE e1000_80003es2lan.c e1000_80003es2lan.h e1000_82540.c e1000_82541.c e1000_82541.h e1000_82542.c e1000_82543.c e1000_82543.h e1000_82571.c e1000_82571.h e1000_82575.c ... X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:23:34 -0000 Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Scott Long writes: > >>What do you expect to accomplish by lecturing a vendor who has shown >>very good faith over the years in supporting FreeBSD? Maybe we should >>tell Intel to piss off since you obviously know how to support their >>hardware much better than they do. > > > We used to have a principle that commit bits were granted to individuals > on their individual merit, not simply because they represented a vendor > and were paid to work on drivers for that vendor's hardware. > Are you implying that Jack has no merit? That's an unfortunate assertion. What evidence do you have to support that? > We also used to have a principle that changes should be tested before > being committed, especially to -STABLE. I guess you missed that part where Jack said that the changes had undergone extensive testing. Scott