From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Apr 23 09:53:56 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD902AFFA8 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 09:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497CLW42W0z4mBb for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 09:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@leidinger.net) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8A6DE2AFFA3; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 09:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2782AFFA2 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 09:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from mailgate.Leidinger.net (bastille.leidinger.net [89.238.82.207]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 497CLV4XH7z4mBY for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 09:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p5B165201.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [91.22.82.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mailgate.Leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A18CC24F6F; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 11:53:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2312279F; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 11:53:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 11:53:30 +0200 Message-ID: <20200423115330.Horde.NW6XdOo4LdF1H7Djzj2V_JM@webmail.leidinger.net> From: Alexander Leidinger To: Konstantin Belousov Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nfslockd kernel module fails to load References: <20200423080809.Horde.Bo3hS63ATAG-0MzxdGgLyhI@webmail.leidinger.net> <20200423061908.GE2522@kib.kiev.ua> <20200423083008.Horde.pIybBPGLYf5eoV_K5M6O6w7@webmail.leidinger.net> <20200423070412.GF2522@kib.kiev.ua> <20200423094602.Horde.CSyNCDCsORIorqv2R743XCg@webmail.leidinger.net> <20200423092248.GG2522@kib.kiev.ua> In-Reply-To: <20200423092248.GG2522@kib.kiev.ua> Accept-Language: de,en Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_Cz5MeJwDPIaxrfzNWuOtKyp"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 497CLV4XH7z4mBY X-Spamd-Bar: -------- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.83 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[leidinger.net:s=outgoing-alex]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[leidinger.net:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[leidinger.net,quarantine]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-3.73)[ip: (-9.81), ipnet: 89.238.64.0/18(-4.92), asn: 34240(-3.92), country: DE(-0.02)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34240, ipnet:89.238.64.0/18, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[1.82.22.91.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 09:53:56 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_Cz5MeJwDPIaxrfzNWuOtKyp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Konstantin Belousov (from Thu, 23 Apr=20=20 2020=2012:22:48 +0300): > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 09:46:02AM +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: >> >> Quoting Konstantin Belousov (from Thu, 23 Apr 2020 >> 10:04:12 +0300): >> > MODULE_DEPEND() handles symbol namespaces. >> >> Since when is this the case (rough figure would be enough if someone kno= ws >> it without looking it up)? > > It is definitely so from the 5.x times, but I highly suspect that this wa= s Thanks for the info. > the feature of 'new' modules from the beginning. I do not remember this behavior in 3.0. I remember cases where a=20=20 module=20didn't had a dependency and manually loading the dependency=20=20 before=20was enough. Memories alter over time, so I may be wrong... I wouldn't be surprised if this behavior was introduced more in the=20=20 timeframe=20around amd64 or the reworking of module loading a while=20=20 after=20amd64 (may this is what you refer to as "new modules"). 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