From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 19:58:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC9916A44C; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:58:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif2-3-1-cust208.cdif.cable.ntl.com [82.31.78.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881D043D48; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:58:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from ceri by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1EPmjo-000Ijk-IL; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:58:08 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:58:08 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20051012195808.GK99170@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Ruslan Ermilov , src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-src@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org References: <200510121009.j9CA9aE3026075@repoman.freebsd.org> <20051012.091330.53066886.imp@bsdimp.com> <20051012152710.GC75270@ip.net.ua> <20051012.104300.74694006.imp@bsdimp.com> <20051012170652.GI99170@submonkey.net> <20051012191933.GD75270@ip.net.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vPuaA1J+WxVGcv41" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051012191933.GD75270@ip.net.ua> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: Ceri Davies Cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/make make.1 X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:58:11 -0000 --vPuaA1J+WxVGcv41 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 10:19:33PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 06:06:52PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > From: Ruslan Ermilov > > > Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/make make.1 > > > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 18:27:10 +0300 > > >=20 > > > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 09:13:30AM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > In message: <200510121009.j9CA9aE3026075@repoman.freebsd.org> > > > > > Yar Tikhiy writes: > > > > > : yar 2005-10-12 10:09:36 UTC > > > > > :=20 > > > > > : FreeBSD src repository > > > > > :=20 > > > > > : Modified files: > > > > > : usr.bin/make make.1=20 > > > > > : Log: > > > > > : __MAKE_CONF doesn't really belong here because it is > > > > > : a FreeBSD extension of sys.mk. A xref to make.conf(5) > > > > > : will be enough here. > > > > > : =20 > > > > > : Requested by: ru > > > > >=20 > > > > > I disagree. It is already hard enough to find info about __MAKE_= CONF, > > > > > and since it is part of the base system, this seems like an artif= icial > > > > > distinction. > > > > >=20 > >=20 > > > > We really don't need any more duplication. > >=20 > > That's true, but it should be our problem and not the user's. > >=20 > It's not just that, it's that __MAKE_CONF isn't used/set/known > by the make(1) utility. It's a location of make.conf file that > is included by the default FreeBSD version of sys.mk. So if > we wanted to emphasize this, it'd be more logical to talk more > about make.conf(5) itself, what it is and how it's used in > FreeBSD. It can be a separate section, e.g. "FreeBSD sys.mk", > documenting __MAKE_CONF and probably other "make \ > __MAKE_CONF=3D/dev/null -f /dev/null -dg1" bits. Or it could be > a short explanation of what make.conf is and then a reference > to the make.conf(5) manpage. But it's certainly not the make's > internal variable (where it was initially documented), hence my > objection?to this commit. That's a convincing argument too. Perhaps this stuff belongs in mk(7)? Ceri --=20 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) --vPuaA1J+WxVGcv41 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDTWrQocfcwTS3JF8RAnFHAKCsNQSqYfq9JrpJb2VwU/K2zlTBZACffYzw 5mH4hsS2XnHMi+CJBlbQoBw= =fnHj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vPuaA1J+WxVGcv41--