From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Sun Mar 25 20:21:07 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155A8F6A12D; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 20:21:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E8D176CD5; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 20:21:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id w2PKL4Bt043592; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 13:21:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id w2PKL4X4043591; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 13:21:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201803252021.w2PKL4X4043591@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: svn commit: r331510 - in head: share/man/man4 sys/conf sys/dev/vmware/vmci sys/modules/vmware sys/modules/vmware/vmci In-Reply-To: To: Warner Losh Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 13:21:04 -0700 (PDT) CC: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Mark Peek , Pedro Giffuni , src-committers , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Reply-To: rgrimes@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 20:21:07 -0000 > On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Rodney W. Grimes < > freebsd@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > > Did VMWare provide the files with the dual license text in them? > > Or did they provide files with SPDX tags in them? > > Or ? > > Does VMWare have these files published some place, with terms of > > use and such? > > > VMWare provided the files exactly as Mark committed them. They were > provided by someone from VMware to our code review system. Without a license to redistributed clearly included some place? > > The SPDX stuff is fine. there's nothing to get upset out here: they are > just as much a legal license as if the license had been included inline. I disagree, especially when I have repeatedly been told "SPDX" is purely advisory by the person who commited them to the tree. > It's widespread practice in the industry dating back to the 80's when DEC > had an indirection notice in their Ultrix source code. In fact, you can > find examples of that going back to the early 70's, though we were under a > different copyright regime. Those "references" to an external license involved a license that was usually executed as a signed document. You could not get the files until you had executed the signed license, and that license in no way allowed you rights to redistribute. Those are big differences in what we have here. You appear to be willing to make an arbitrary depature from what has been, and currently is, the standard form of the FreeBSD source tree. I disagree with your assesment of the situation. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org