From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 24 01:30:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC4537B404; Thu, 24 Apr 2003 01:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.duncanyoung.com (pc-62-30-170-113-ca.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.170.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB9643F75; Thu, 24 Apr 2003 01:30:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duncan.young@pobox.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.duncanyoung.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583C049E; Thu, 24 Apr 2003 09:30:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.duncanyoung.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mamiya.int.duncanyoung.com [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 47448-02; Thu, 24 Apr 2003 09:30:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from toyo.int.duncanyoung.com (toyo-ext.int.duncanyoung.com [192.168.200.2]) by mail.duncanyoung.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3374493; Thu, 24 Apr 2003 09:30:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from toyo (toyo [192.168.1.2]) by toyo.int.duncanyoung.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA75412A; Thu, 24 Apr 2003 09:30:20 +0100 (BST) From: Duncan Young To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 09:30:14 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <41371.192.107.26.131.1051112914.squirrel@www.duncanyoung.com> <20030423233156.GL49736@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20030423233156.GL49736@wantadilla.lemis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304240930.15293.duncan.young@pobox.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Miguel =?iso-8859-1?q?Gon=E7alves?= Subject: Re: Vinum in FreeBSD 4.x branch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 08:30:42 -0000 I stand corrected on the root disk issue. Even so I would still recommend hardware mirroring. Its just simpler, more= =20 proven, etc. Idealy you get something with hot swap drives. If you have a= =20 disk failure, order a new drive, pull out the old, in with the new, and hou= r=20 later and no-one is the wiser. Remember this is supposed to be in a corporate environment where "failure is not an option". Getting vinum to set up root disks is "fiddly" and whomeve= r=20 will support the box tomorrow, may not be as compentent as whomever sets it= =20 up today. When things go wrong, the simplest setup is best. I do intend root mirroring my home machines (now that I know it can be done= ),=20 but in a production environment, being conservative is preferable, especial= ly=20 if money can be traded for complexity. Duncan On Thursday 24 Apr 2003 12:31 am, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Wednesday, 23 April 2003 at 16:48:34 +0100, Duncan Young wrote: > >> Hello fellow BSDers! > >> > >> I am about to install a new server on a corportate environment > >> where failure is not an option (that's why I am installing > >> FreeBSD :-) ). To minimize hard disk problems I intend to use > >> Vinum. > >> > >> I just want to know how is the stability and robustness of > >> Vinum in the 4.x branch. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Miguel Gon=E7alves > >> > >> PS: I know this is not a good thing to do but can you please > >> CC to me as I am not on the list due to limitations of my > >> mail server. Thanks again! > > > > Though I run vinum at home, I would actually suggest not using it in a > > corperate environment. There are a couple of problems with it which ma= ke > > it less than desirable. > > > > 1) No root disk support (well I last time I checked it didn't). This is > > main reason not to use vinum. > > As has been mentioned in this thread already, this is no longer the > case. > > Greg > -- > When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. > If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. > For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html > See complete headers for address and phone numbers