From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Fri Apr 7 17:44:25 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB947D32261 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2017 17:44:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (spindle.one-eyed-alien.net [199.48.129.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE7F3F53 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2017 17:44:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: by spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (Postfix, from userid 3001) id E15F35A9F14; Fri, 7 Apr 2017 17:44:23 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 17:44:23 +0000 From: Brooks Davis To: Kevin Bowling Cc: ??ukasz W??jcik , FreeBSD Net Subject: Re: Impending NATM removal Message-ID: <20170407174423.GB16743@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <20170406235747.GA8756@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2017 17:44:26 -0000 --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The fact that FreeBSD 11 has almost five years of support left is part of what makes this a good time to remove support from 12. Updating 11 to support newer cards certainly makes sense. -- Brooks On Fri, Apr 07, 2017 at 06:30:05AM -0700, Kevin Bowling wrote: > For consideration, stable/11 will be supported until September 30, 2021 > which provides a pretty long window to transition. >=20 > On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 6:15 AM, ??ukasz W??jcik > wrote: >=20 > > Oh, and mbpool DMA syncing does not work at all and -- at least in patm > > driver -- causes various issues. > > > > This of course can be easily worked around if you choose to let ATM > > ecosystem stay. If my client agrees, > > > > I could also share a patch for patm to make it work with newer ProSUM > > hardware. > > > > > > -??W > > > > > > > > On 07-Apr-17 15:08, ??ukasz W??jcik wrote: > > > >> Hi Brooks, > >> > >> > >> AFAIK Prosum still manufactures PROATM155M card that utilizes patm dri= ver > >> (which is by the way a little bit outdated and does > >> > >> not support newer variants of ProSUM cards). I also have clients that > >> still use ATM and prosum cards and FreeBSD. My guess is that > >> > >> they're not the only ones. Just my 5cents. The other thing is that > >> ATM/NATM infrastructure in FreeBSD seems to never have been > >> > >> finished. > >> > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> -??W > >> > >> > >> On 07-Apr-17 01:57, Brooks Davis wrote: > >> > >>> As previously threatened, I plan to remove NATM support next week. T= his > >>> includes the drivers en(4), fatm(4), hatm(4), and patm(4). None of > >>> these devices have been manufactured in the last 20 years so it is ti= me > >>> to move on. > >>> > >>> The planned commit can be seen at https://reviews.freebsd.org/D9883 > >>> > >>> -- Brooks > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJY58/3AAoJEKzQXbSebgfAOHwH/jsAu6ejkRoCb3ji+bh9HqGc DGpPfBFqfqGLdk7SGkv5v/nR4DIz76eXH09gAFFr9EJwFREs3KpKHDQHS9O+PUWJ a38aVzpBMdCBcdeZ0nqCBp9FbvEsicTVjYf0+jijJXBqBpxzM3ocHrmUa0N5mA44 H5wM/vTts8tgxp3ZSRWm/DTgmoRXahKVKxNfK7BcmjoVwZ6VeU7F2JpynRPN87eF Z700C4LZdaW+ZVzlxbJI7PG4c2DSfQwCt8/wtUGL1F8S/QPT/T+BwTrWoDOvjVtm 9wqKMiYKwdlgR/FtUsCOyyAZLohPsshq4ULu6zIQn/qIfmqNKDXxPPL1DNhY6XY= =O+02 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2--