Date: 28 May 2003 15:58:09 -0400 From: Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@FreeBSD.org> To: FreeBSD GNOME Users <gnome@FreeBSD.org> Subject: [Fwd: Release Team's Almost-Final Modules List] Message-ID: <1054151889.314.73.camel@gyros>
next in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
--=-5lMHNn3T2tb0DWk5eENo Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-uLZ7lKwcvEbGzvuyOBrq" --=-uLZ7lKwcvEbGzvuyOBrq Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is the latest on what's coming in GNOME 2.4. I think these are good decisions all around. My only concern in gnome-system-tools which doesn't work on FreeBSD. I've tried multiple times to get help from the authors to build some FreeBSD support, but have so far been ignored. Joe --=20 Joe Marcus Clarke FreeBSD GNOME Team :: marcus@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome --=-uLZ7lKwcvEbGzvuyOBrq Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Forwarded message - Release Team's Almost-Final Modules List Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by h4SJpQV8054100 for <marcus@marcuscom.com>; Wed, 28 May 2003 15:51:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from desktop-devel-list-admin@gnome.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802535540A for <marcus@marcuscom.com>; Wed, 28 May 2003 12:53:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from desktop-devel-list-admin@gnome.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 7CBF037B404; Wed, 28 May 2003 12:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: marcus@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7936937B401 for <marcus@freebsd.org>; Wed, 28 May 2003 12:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [209.116.70.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD5E43F75 for <marcus@freebsd.org>; Wed, 28 May 2003 12:53:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from desktop-devel-list-admin@gnome.org) Received: from moniker.gnome.org (moniker.gnome.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C4A1840B; Wed, 28 May 2003 15:53:17 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-06.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.38]) by mail.gnome.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 002B41840B for <desktop-devel-list@gnome.org>; Wed, 28 May 2003 15:52:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19349 invoked from network); 28 May 2003 19:44:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO home.perkypants.org) (203.217.26.198) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 28 May 2003 19:44:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A8C8C1A9; Thu, 29 May 2003 05:44:04 +1000 (EST) Received: from home.perkypants.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (katia [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06451-07; Thu, 29 May 2003 05:44:04 +1000 (EST) Received: from lazarus.home (lazarus.home [192.168.10.10]) by home.perkypants.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575618C19E; Thu, 29 May 2003 05:44:04 +1000 (EST) Received: by lazarus.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 387F212B6C2; Thu, 29 May 2003 05:44:06 +1000 (EST) From: Jeff Waugh <jdub@perkypants.org> To: GNOME Desktop Hackers <desktop-devel-list@gnome.org>, GNOME Hackers <gnome-hackers@gnome.org> Subject: Release Team's Almost-Final Modules List Message-ID: <20030528194406.GA19946@lazarus> Mail-Followup-To: GNOME Desktop Hackers <desktop-devel-list@gnome.org>, GNOME Hackers <gnome-hackers@gnome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Message-Flag: Cranky? Try Free Software instead! X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.21-rc1 i686 Reply-By: Sun Jun 1 05:25:32 EST 2003 X-Uptime: 05:25:32 up 5 days, 16:52, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.04, 0.01 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030314-p2 (Debian) Sender: desktop-devel-list-admin@gnome.org Errors-To: desktop-devel-list-admin@gnome.org X-BeenThere: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Loop: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:desktop-devel-list-request@gnome.org?subject=help> List-Post: <mailto:desktop-devel-list@gnome.org> List-Subscribe: <http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list>, <mailto:desktop-devel-list-request@gnome.org?subject=subscribe> List-Id: GNOME Desktop Development List <desktop-devel-list.gnome.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list>, <mailto:desktop-devel-list-request@gnome.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/>; Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 05:44:06 +1000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,KNOWN_MAILING_LIST,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT_MUTT,X_LOOP autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, The release team has discussed the modules list at great length over the last few weeks (seems like an eternity...) and has compiled this list, whic= h hopefully represents a consensus of the input we've received about each of the proposed modules. This list will become the official new modules list for GNOME 2.3.x on June 2, enshrined forever in GEP 11, unless we hear loud wailing and gnashing of teeth at any of our judgements before then. That means you have just under = a week to bring up any doubts or queries you have about this list. The comments and rationale have been proofed by the release team, and shoul= d be considered our 'combined opinion'. In -- Note that all of these apps must continue to meet the standards of qualit= y laid out in GEP 10, or they may be removed prior to the final 2.4 release= . We would not expect that to happen very often, though. :-) epiphany gcalctool gtksourceview gnome-mag gnome-speech gnomemeeting gnopernicus gok gpdf gucharmap nautilus-cd-burner fontilus (now part of control-center) themus (now part of control-center) zenity =20 Out --- battfink =20 This module was removed from the proposed modules list at the author'= s request. Further work to enrich the energy saving infrastructure will be done, so it looks like battfink will be proposed again for 2.6. =20 galeon There was a lot of vocal support for Epiphany on the mailing list, bu= t little for Galeon. So, the consensus points to Epiphany. That was due to a number of factors: The Epiphany project goals seem to be better aligned with GNOME's goals, the Galeon developers do not seem to be 100% behind GNOME's goals; Epiphany has had regular releases for GNOM= E 2.3.x; the Epiphany hackers are working within the project to define standards and code for toolbar editing and other functionality, etc. While there are a lot of reservations about offending the Galeon hackers, and great disappointment that the two projects have not been able to cooperate, Epiphany does seem to have the consensus, and make the most technical sense. That is not to say that Epiphany is without faults, or that Galeon is not excellent software -> we do need to mak= e a choice at some stage: Right now there is strong support to add a browser to the Desktop release, and strong support for that browser t= o be Epiphany. =20 gedit-plugins Paolo agreed to shift the most useful plugins into gedit, and remove gedit-plugins from the proposed modules list. It will live on as a separate cool-plugins-for-gedit package. =20 gswitchit, xklavier There was not a lot of discussion or vocal support for these modules, while there were suggestions that it would not work with previous generation X servers, and queries about the user interface (such as integration with control centre, what we really want out of keyboard and language selection, etc). We should continue to watch this module so we can fix these issues in 2.6. =20 seahorse Whilst there was a lot of support for some of seahorse's features in the desktop release, its current state exposes implementation in a wa= y that many users will not immediately grasp. There were suggestions that it could integrate with an address book system, that it could concentrate on the common use cases of encrypting files and checking signatures, etc. On the whole, it's great, but the interface is very GPG-oriented, and it doesn't deeply integrate into GNOME. Hopefully, we'll see it up for proposal again for 2.6. =20 Undecided --------- We hope to have final proposals for these modules in the next few days. gnome-system-tools This module is being discussed on d-d-l at the moment. Left undecided= . =20 sound-juicer This module is being discussed on d-d-l at the moment. Left undecided= . =20 totem We are leaving Totem as "undecided" for now, pending a 0.6.2 release from the GStreamer team. If that indicates that the GStreamer backend for Totem has a chance of working in the 2.4 timeframe, it will be added to the final modules list. Note that we are not including DVD support in our criteria for "working" - this simplifies distributor issues anyway. It must be made clear that a media player is a very important missing link in the GNOME Desktop release; if Totem with gstreamer is not working for 2.4, then we should carefully consider our options for 2.6, because it would be disappointing to go without = a media player in the Desktop release for that long. Thanks to all of the maintainers who proposed modules for this release! - Jeff --=20 linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au= / =20 "Everyone says they like Free Software - not everyone is ready to make the tough choices to make it happen." - Maciej Stachowiak _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list --=-uLZ7lKwcvEbGzvuyOBrq-- --=-5lMHNn3T2tb0DWk5eENo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+1RTRb2iPiv4Uz4cRAjHSAJ9o/WiV9LfkP6HTsL3zZJkDUl7CigCfZw7i oXeBsvHIk5RW8B++pdrWGFA= =Yj6t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-5lMHNn3T2tb0DWk5eENo--
Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?1054151889.314.73.camel>