From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 01:13:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770BC1065676; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:13:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:2f0:104:e001::32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC968FC1A; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:13:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from delta.allbsd.org (p2191-ipbf1403funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [118.7.161.191]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mB51DX2s063026; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:13:45 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by delta.allbsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id mB51DQj9064690; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:13:27 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:58:43 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20081205.095843.138450898.hrs@allbsd.org> To: pgj@FreeBSD.org, blackend@FreeBSD.org From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20081201103533.GC1330@gothic.blackend.org> References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> <4933B2E8.10507@FreeBSD.org> <20081201103533.GC1330@gothic.blackend.org> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 6.1 on Emacs 22.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Fri_Dec__5_09_58_43_2008_346)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (mail.allbsd.org [133.31.130.32]); Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:13:45 +0900 (JST) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:13:46 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Dec__5_09_58_43_2008_346)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marc Fonvieille wrote in <20081201103533.GC1330@gothic.blackend.org>: bl> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 10:48:24AM +0100, Gabor PALI wrote: bl> > Marc Fonvieille wrote: bl> > > I'm working since a while on ports for doc [..] and tell me if you bl> > > like it :) bl> > bl> > I think generally it is a good idea to reanimate the concept bl> > documentation packages, however last time I asked about them (May 2008, bl> > while fixing the FAQ), I got an interesting answer [1] from Hiroki Sato: bl> > bl> > "The doc packages are no longer available because the past discussion bl> > reached a consensus that generating them is a bit tricky and most of bl> > people do not need such packages because the latest documentation is bl> > always available on the web." bl> > bl> [...] bl> bl> But you cut the last sentence :) bl> bl> Yes, it was difficult to maintain them and we had no real solution to bl> continue to provide them. It's true that the doc is available via the bl> web, but as I said the aim is not only provide packages to the user but bl> also modernize the doc installation and build for the releases. bl> Now, I have a working solution that can be updated, etc. without bl> headaches, so we may have to rethink about the current situation. Ah, I certainly wrote the reply to Gabor in May. It is true that the old packages are deprecated for the reason as I explained. However, I do not think generating doc packages itself is a bad thing. The difficulty of the old packages is that they were not from the Ports Collection. I mean they did not have any corresponding ports, so upgrading cannot be done in a straightforward way. Using ports for the doc packages can eliminate the tricky part of the old ones and make the release distribution set simple. I believe it is the right direction. -- | Hiroki SATO ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Dec__5_09_58_43_2008_346)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkk4fMMACgkQTyzT2CeTzy0oSACfSKY4+J67rOezGJC0g6y4rNME F3wAnRM0I9oR+9OyLvkQzVOfF9WfmrFm =4iIl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Dec__5_09_58_43_2008_346)----