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Date:      Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:41:26 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Brett Taylor <brett@peloton.runet.edu>
To:        Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
Cc:        Donna Kean <d-kean@adfa.edu.au>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: help (on sysadmin tools)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9909101528550.22809-100000@peloton.runet.edu>
In-Reply-To: <37d89977.375928897@mail.sentex.net>

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Hi Donna,

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote:

> On 9 Sep 1999 19:01:17 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.hackers you wrote:

> >hi my names donna kean and i'm a 3rd year is student at the australian
> >defence force academy.  i'm enrolled in a systems administration course
> >and i have to write an assignment about freebsd gui tools that help
> >sysadmins do their work such as create users, monitor the system etc. i
> >was hopeing that you could help me with information or web sites that
> >are relevant. 

There are a number of possibilities to look into:

	Webmin - this a web-based utility to add users, monitor Apache, 
		 set up printers, and a number of other bits and pieces;
		 I used it very briefly.
		
		location in FreeBSD ports: /usr/ports/www/webmin
		Webmin web page:  http://www.webmin.com/webmin/

	SAM -  (FreeBSD System Administrator Manager) - this works only 
		on (with a patch at the site) a 3.*-RELEASE system - why? 
		No clue.  To run on something other than 3.0-RELEASE you 
		need a patch found on the site.  It appears you cannot
		run STABLE (unless you want to hack the patch or
		something).  This seems really limited.  I tried to run it 
		once (I was actually at a -RELEASE) and then I upgraded 
		to STABLE and I haven't tried it since.

		web page:  http://homepage.esoterica.pt/~jardim/Index.html

	freebsd-admin - Never tried it and it's in development.  Brian 
		decided against using the QT library so he's developing 
		a new toolkit to use.  It's in development now but you can 
		grab the old version that uses QT.  

		web page:
			http://www.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU/~brian/freebsd-admin/

If you just want system tools, there are a number of things to look at.
Try searching for likely tools in :

	http://www.freebsd.org/ports/sysutils.html

Primarily most FreeBSD admins mess w/ things directly in console mode (or
in an xterm).  I stopped using all the GUI admin programs after trying
them because I could do what I wanted to do faster on the command line.

That said my goal was trying to write up an article on them for Daemon
News.  Never got that done, so if you get something done and you can
condense it into an article (or a series of articles) Daemon News would
love it!  :-)

If you decide to submit something do so to:

	article@daemonnews.org

Good luck!

Brett
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