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Date:      Sat, 28 Aug 1999 08:47:19 -0500 (CDT)
From:      "M. L. Dodson" <bdodson@beowulf.utmb.edu>
To:        become <become@splusnet.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   another ppp question
Message-ID:  <199908281347.IAA03133@beowulf.utmb.edu>
In-Reply-To: <37C792AF.C7D59A06@splusnet.com>
References:  <37C792AF.C7D59A06@splusnet.com>

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become writes:
 > To whom it may concern
 > I am currently using user ppp and also use the free bsd box (as a
 > gateway) to connect my 3 other (win98) boxs to the internet
 > I want to set up kernel ppp and was wondering should i use server ppp or
 > client ppp
 > i currently use the syntax (ppp -alias splus) and then dial splus at the
 > ppp prompt
 > when i use kernel ppp will i have to run (!bg) background commands? at
 > the ppp prompt
 > or will ppp be running in the background and i will be at  a regular
 > prompt?
 > cause it is a pain in the butt to always type !bg before a command
 > 
 > Thank you for all you help!!
 > Matthew
 > become@splusnet.com
 > 
 > 
 > 

I suppose you have some sort of alergic reaction to normal
punctuation and capitalization as commonly practiced in the
English language?  If you are too lazy to do us that simple
courtesy in order to make our reading your posts easier, I don't
know why I or anyone else should want to help you out.

Nevertheless... 

Why are you switching to kernel ppp?  Two of the most prominent
features entering the choice to use user ppp are the -alias
switch (NAT is built in) and autodialing (built in).  You are not
autodialing, for reasons that you felt were either unimportant or
that we should discern by Vulcan mind meld, so one reason to
choose user ppp is gone.

Unless kernel ppp has changed (I haven't thought about it for
three years or so), you will have to kludge up some sort of
autodial solution, if that eventually turns out to be important.
It used to be, at least, that people used kernel ppp when they
wanted to set up a dialup ppp box, not for a gateway, unless the
link was permanent.  I assume that still holds?  If the link is
permanent, setup a server on one end, a client on the other.  How
you do the initial connection is relatively unimportant as you do
it infrequently.  Script it if possible.

You will have to set up NAT external to kernel ppp.  See one of
the postings or FAQs having to do with cable modems for insight.

If I'm hopelessly behind the times and giving out inaccurate
information, someone please correct me.  I suspect not, however,
because I understand Brian is trying to move the guts of user ppp
into the kernel to get the nice features of user ppp in a lighter
weight implementation.

As for the documentation (re. another posting in this thread), I
find Brian's documentation to be almost embarrassingly
straightforward to read and understand.  Although I might be
considered one of those omniscient wizards for which the
documentation was putatively written.  Funny I never thought of
myself in that category, just a simple computer hobbiest who
doesn't even do this stuff professionally.

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