From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 21 07:15:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CECD81 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 07:15:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6B92D3B for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 07:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:b92e:d4cd:a9c8:2922]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 464D34AC2D; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:15:44 +0400 (MSK) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:15:41 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <146810645.20130821111541@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: "Joe Holden" Subject: Re: kern/181388: [route] Routes not updated on mtu change In-Reply-To: <17fb01ce9df3$f2cc6ba0$d86542e0$@rewt.org.uk> References: <201308190700.r7J701I9045665@freefall.freebsd.org> <5211D812.5070308@rewt.org.uk> <20130820011254.GZ94127@funkthat.com> <521327EB.6010407@rewt.org.uk> <162512031.20130820124633@serebryakov.spb.ru> <52137B62.3000405@rewt.org.uk> <648062544.20130821020631@serebryakov.spb.ru> <17fb01ce9df3$f2cc6ba0$d86542e0$@rewt.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 07:15:47 -0000 Hello, Joe. You wrote 21 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3=D1=83=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0 2013 =D0=B3., 2:23:= 49: JH> You have a good point wrt VLANs on Windows but everyone uses Intel nics= ....=20 JH> right? :P On desktops? Wrong. At least till Haswell. Now, MoBos on Z87 chjipset, are often equipped with new Intel desktop NICs (like V217 or something like this), and even now ASUS often uses Realtek chips, and before this, Realtek was installed on 95% of desktop, office and home (low- and mid-range) MoBos --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov