From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Oct 28 18:43:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7D537B401 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:43:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.147.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C019343E3B for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:43:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from april.chuckr.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by april.chuckr.org (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9T2eVff045737; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:40:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by april.chuckr.org (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id g9T2eTcP045734; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:40:29 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: april.chuckr.org: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:40:28 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: "Daniel O'Connor" Cc: Kenneth Culver , "Wilkinson,Alex" , Subject: Re: [hardware] Tagged Command Queuing or Larger Cache ? In-Reply-To: <1035857031.77698.57.camel@chowder.localdomain> Message-ID: <20021028213317.Y45658-100000@april.chuckr.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 29 Oct 2002, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 01:54, Kenneth Culver wrote: > > > I haven't had any trouble with the WDxxxBB drives - the WDxxxAA drives > > > are pretty unreliable though. > > > > > Hrmm, I havn't tried those, but just about every WD drive I've used has > > ended up with problems which were of course handled by the warranty, but > > even then, I still had to reinstall the os and pull a bunch of stuff from > > my backups which was a pain to do for each failure. Like I said, just my > > personal experience. I don't think the new 8MB cache drives have been out > > long enough to actually develop the problems I've seen on WD drives > > though. > > Yes, but my point is that the AA drives are bad, but the BB drives seem > good. I have been using them for a while (~1 year) without trouble. > > I believe the JB drives are much more closely related to the BB drives > (ie effectively identical but with a bigger cache). > > Personally I find that no HD manufacturer has a good reputation - they > have all made trashy drives at one point. Give the general time it takes > for problems to surface vs product lifetimes makes deciding what to buy > a PITA :( No, I'd take issue with that, hitting on all HD mfrs in general, it has more to do with the technology, and the focus of the market it's aimed at. In general, SCSI drives have a far better rep than the IDE drives. That probably has to do with the market sector they focus on. With one exception (a heat problem I probably must blame on myself doing some learning) I've had no problems with scsi drives, and I beat hell out of them. I guess if you *must* run IDE, then run raid arrays. If you don't run either, then you can't complain if you buy the cheapest and don't get the best reliability. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD, chuckr@chuckr.org | electronics, communications, and signal processing. New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up fictitious words in the dictionary. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message