From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 15 17:39:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 948FDA72; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 535A4E1; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:39:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.23.74.131] (helo=michael-think.fritz.box) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XphJO-0001Ij-SO; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 18:39:02 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: aw1@stade.co.uk, "Dimitry Andric" Subject: Re: best overall upgrade from 8.x? References: <54673CA1.5020008@netfence.it> <20141115125347.GC16633@swelter.hanley.stade.co.uk> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 18:38:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.98.4/19632/Sat Nov 15 12:39:41 2014) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:39:12 -0000 On Sat, 15 Nov 2014 16:20:49 +0100, Dimitry Andric wrote: > On 15 Nov 2014, at 13:53, Adrian Wontroba wrote: >> >> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:44:33PM +0100, Andrea Venturoli wrote: >>> On 11/15/14 05:48, Kevin Oberman wrote: >>>> I'd wait a month or so and, if no problems that might impact you pop >>>> up, >>>> I'd go with 10.1 >>> Uh... is direct upgrade (using sources) possible from 8.4 to 10.1? >>> No need to step through 9.x? >> >> Even the move from 9.2 (a near year old 9/stable) to 10.1 (stable/10 as >> of about 3 weeks ago) is slightly problematic. >> >> Following the normal upgrade procedure of installkernel and then >> rebooting with the userland untouched runs into a problem whereby >> rc.conf falls apart with a shower of eval errors, no networking, ... >> >> I do not know the cause. > > I almost certainly know the cause: you are supposed to reboot into > single user mode after installkernel. A regular boot to full multi user > mode may or may not work, depending on numerous unpredictable > circumstances. :-) > If you follow the handbook, you are not supposed to reboot at all after installkernel. I think it was advised once, but it does no longer say so, it just says "drop to single user". Well, it still says "[single user] also minimizes any problems from running the old world on a new kernel." which you don't actually do if you follow the instructions. Michael