From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Sep 9 11:31: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52BFF37B400 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from directvinternet.com (dsl-65-185-140-165.telocity.com [65.185.140.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA58243E42 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:31:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwestfal@directvinternet.com) Received: from Tolstoy.home.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by directvinternet.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89IV2Gd063903; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:31:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwestfal@directvinternet.com) Received: from localhost (nwestfal@localhost) by Tolstoy.home.lan (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id g89IV1hT063882; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:31:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Tolstoy.home.lan: nwestfal owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:31:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neal E. Westfall" X-X-Sender: nwestfal@Tolstoy.home.lan To: Dave Hayes Cc: Terry Lambert , Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? In-Reply-To: <200209090147.g891lx125265@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> Message-ID: <20020909112611.C9219-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, Dave Hayes wrote: > > Okay, then lets stop pretending that creation is "unscientific" while > > evolution is "scientific". Neither one of them can be falsified, so > > either *both* of them are scientific, or neither of them are. > > The point is missed that perhaps *both* are right. It is not far > afield to consider that God created the notion of evolution and this > process is how He made the world. Perhaps. Oh the other hand, if at any point it contradicts what God has revealed about Himself, it would have to be rejected. There are in fact many Christians who believe in theistic evolution, including the late Princeton theologian B.B. Warfield. He was quite conservative, but he thought evolution provided a great teleological argument for for the existence of God. Neal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message