From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Nov 17 9:38:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6A037B401 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 09:38:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806F143E6E for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 09:38:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Received: from contactdish (contactdish.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAHHcd921974 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 18:38:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <056001c28e60$2af21cf0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "FreeBSD Chat" References: <20021116232242.S23359-100000@hub.org> <04f801c28e20$0a3665b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3DD7CF81.7030407@cream.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD: Server or Desktop OS? Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 18:38:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew writes: > I think the point is that if everyone took > that opinion then -stable would never get > stress-tested in the sort of environment > that Marc is using it, and we would never > find some problems until a -release was > rolled making the -release far less stable > than we are used to. That's right. Thank goodness there are still people around who are willing to take unnecessary risks. As long as they aren't working in my organization. Of course, the ideal would be for the developers to stress-test the OS, since they wrote it. Apparently that doesn't happen for FreeBSD. One of the unfortunate consequences of open source, I suspect. > Unfortunately these situations need someone > with a high level of knowledge to sit down > and work with Marc's crash dumps to figure out > what the problem is. And those people are few > and far between..... Which is why organizations with mission-critical applications tend to run proprietary software. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message